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Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:03 pm

https://bethesda.net/en/article/3safL3Q ... d-features

Available this Friday (October 27th)

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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:40 pm

I've always enjoyed the Wolfenstein series games ever since the DOS days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdcnQISuF_Y

It was ID's predecessor to DOOM and pretty much jump started all the 3D first-person shooter style games.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:39 pm

G8torbyte wrote:
I've always enjoyed the Wolfenstein series games ever since the DOS days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdcnQISuF_Y

It was ID's predecessor to DOOM and pretty much jump started all the 3D first-person shooter style games.


You shoulda linked to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fgok9eHqO8

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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:31 pm

Whoa, did not know Wolfenstein goes back even further into the 1980's. I played a little bit on Apple II's but it was mainly only this game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbHW66AbzHA
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:46 am

Really looking forward to this. Tried to finish off Wolfenstein: The Old Blood recently, but it wouldn't play with current AMD drivers on Windows 10 because of an in-driver "optimization" which drops it to 17-19 FPS regardless of settings; only affects Skylake CPUs and modern GCN (post-480) cards -- unless I rename the binary and re-import into Steam as a non-Steam game :evil: (calling any AMD driver people lurking!)

Copy pasta the specs of the new game, as had hoped to see them here when I clicked into this thread:

Minimum

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400/AMD FX-8350/Intel Core i5-3570/Intel Core i7-3770 or better
  • GPU: AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB/NVIDIA GTX 770 4GB or better
  • RAM: 8 GB
  • OS: Win7, 8.1, or 10 (64-Bit versions)
  • Storage: 55GB
  • Additional Requirements: Steam account and broadband internet connection for activation and installation
AMD GPU drivers no longer support Windows 8.1

Recommended

  • CPU: AMD FX-9370/Intel Core i7-4770 or better
  • GPU: AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB/NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB or better
  • RAM: 16 GB
  • OS: Win7, 8.1, or 10 64-Bit
  • Storage: 55GB
  • Additional Requirements: Steam account and broadband internet connection for activation and installation
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:50 am

The reviews are in and they are, for the most part, extremely positive. Here is what Ars had to say:

"Fans of the predecessor should snap this up ASAP. More casual shooter fans should tread cautiously."

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/10/ ... ic-combat/


I downloaded it last night (45GB?). I'm looking forward to giving it a whirl this weekend.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:07 am

Topinio wrote:
because of an in-driver "optimization" which drops it to 17-19 FPS regardless of settings; only affects Skylake CPUs and modern GCN (post-480) cards -- unless I rename the binary and re-import into Steam as a non-Steam game


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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:10 am

Topinio wrote:
Minimum

  • GPU: AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB/NVIDIA GTX 770 4GB or better

well if wolfenstein says I have to buy a new GPU then I pretty much have to, right? :-?
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:21 am

PSA: currently cheaper on cdkeys.com, I just got it for £28.99 vs £39.99 on Steam direct, a 27.5% saving 8)

41.2 GB download, yay, going to take an hour +

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well if wolfenstein says I have to buy a new GPU then I pretty much have to, right? :-?

Sounds good to me, right you are. I hear they're really cheap right now /s :-?
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:05 am

Anyone running G-SYNC should upgrade to the 388.10 drivers.

I was seeing my FPS capped at 60 under the 388.00 drivers. The 388.10 drivers fixed the bug.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:50 pm

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The reviews are in and they are, for the most part, extremely positive. Here is what Ars had to say:

"Fans of the predecessor should snap this up ASAP. More casual shooter fans should tread cautiously."

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/10/ ... ic-combat/


I downloaded it last night (45GB?). I'm looking forward to giving it a whirl this weekend.

I would still be buying ID games if they were still porting them to Linux, but sadly they quit doing that a long time ago.
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:08 pm

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I would still be buying ID games if they were still porting them to Linux, but sadly they quit doing that a long time ago.

So you're refusing to put together a Windows box (or dual-boot) to play games you know you would probably enjoy, just to make a political statement about the OS market?
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:38 pm

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whm1974 wrote:
I would still be buying ID games if they were still porting them to Linux, but sadly they quit doing that a long time ago.

So you're refusing to put together a Windows box (or dual-boot) to play games you know you would probably enjoy, just to make a political statement about the OS market?

Well it's not so much a political statement as I simply don't like Windows, period.
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:03 am

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Well it's not so much a political statement as I simply don't like Windows, period.

TBF, I can sympathize with this POV. I hate Windows, particularly Windows 10.

Due to this game, and Windows' gaming environment being so dumb that hardware OEMs are required to revise and release drivers specifically for each game, and AMD's inability to test drivers before releasing them, I spent 3 hours last night working to get my machine's Windows OE back to the point it was in the afternoon ... because it turns out that (OT rant)

  1. AMD Crimson 17.10.2 and 17.10.3 introduce support for, and improve performance of, this game (respectively) but ... do not work at all in Windows 10 1607 Anniversary Update. They install, but fail to work after a reboot.
  2. The driver installs have done something to the system, the boot process went up to 20-40 minutes.
  3. The driver option for Clean Uninstall renders the system unable to output video at all.
  4. The driver's created Restore Point didn't work properly.
  5. Windows no longer has a option for the user to hit F8 for Advanced Startup, so no quick debugging via 20 years of experience for me.
  6. Access to advanced startup can be possible from the OE (if you can boot to it) but is via the modern Settings app ... except over Remote Desktop, when that section is missing entirely. WTH, Microsoft?
  7. Access to advanced startup can apparently be possible from the OE (if you can boot to it) via holding Shift while choosing Restart ... this also does not work from Remote Desktop (at least from the iOS app).
  8. Access to advanced startup can be possible from boot media (if you cannot boot to the OE) ... except if your boot media is a different version of Windows 10, then computer says no.
  9. Without Advanced Startup available, and with only boot media it won't play with (I had 1507 and 1703), let it try to boot right? Even though it would take half an hour, it'll
    1. succeed (with no video output), or
    2. fail (with BSODs, 2 different ones yesterday) and then try to Automatic Repair itself. Yay? No. This tried to take approximately a million years, and failed in the end. Resetting the machine seemed to reset the counter, so it went back into trying to boot normally until it again decided it needed to do an Automatic Repain -- no Advanced Startup for me -- which failed again after sitting there forever ...

If this were a single-user system, I would have been tempted to rage quit swear off Windows entirely at 1 a.m. :x :evil:
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:35 am

Topinio wrote:
whm1974 wrote:
Well it's not so much a political statement as I simply don't like Windows, period.

TBF, I can sympathize with this POV. I hate Windows, particularly Windows 10.

Due to this game, and Windows' gaming environment being so dumb that hardware OEMs are required to revise and release drivers specifically for each game, and AMD's inability to test drivers before releasing them, I spent 3 hours last night working to get my machine's Windows OE back to the point it was in the afternoon ... because it turns out that (OT rant)

  1. AMD Crimson 17.10.2 and 17.10.3 introduce support for, and improve performance of, this game (respectively) but ... do not work at all in Windows 10 1607 Anniversary Update. They install, but fail to work after a reboot.
  2. The driver installs have done something to the system, the boot process went up to 20-40 minutes.
  3. The driver option for Clean Uninstall renders the system unable to output video at all.
  4. The driver's created Restore Point didn't work properly.
  5. Windows no longer has a option for the user to hit F8 for Advanced Startup, so no quick debugging via 20 years of experience for me.
  6. Access to advanced startup can be possible from the OE (if you can boot to it) but is via the modern Settings app ... except over Remote Desktop, when that section is missing entirely. WTH, Microsoft?
  7. Access to advanced startup can apparently be possible from the OE (if you can boot to it) via holding Shift while choosing Restart ... this also does not work from Remote Desktop (at least from the iOS app).
  8. Access to advanced startup can be possible from boot media (if you cannot boot to the OE) ... except if your boot media is a different version of Windows 10, then computer says no.
  9. Without Advanced Startup available, and with only boot media it won't play with (I had 1507 and 1703), let it try to boot right? Even though it would take half an hour, it'll
    1. succeed (with no video output), or
    2. fail (with BSODs, 2 different ones yesterday) and then try to Automatic Repair itself. Yay? No. This tried to take approximately a million years, and failed in the end. Resetting the machine seemed to reset the counter, so it went back into trying to boot normally until it again decided it needed to do an Automatic Repain -- no Advanced Startup for me -- which failed again after sitting there forever ...

If this were a single-user system, I would have been tempted to rage quit swear off Windows entirely at 1 a.m. :x :evil:

If this game Just and any others that you play were on Linux, would you switch and tell the other users just deal with it and get use to it? Just a thought.... :)
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:51 am

[rant]
Am I the only one who keeps being annoyed at those new game titles?
Battlefield 2, Star Wars: Battlefront 2, Wolfenstein 2...
Why, just why put that number there when it is just plainly incorrect?
Battlefield 2 and battlefront 2 where both released in 2005, Wolfenstein 2 in 1984...
Why not just call it "Wolfenstein: The New Colossus", if they think Wolfenstein IX is too much? This just feels like they try to had the great legacy of this series.

And even if they would start counting from 1 again,
it would be Wolfenstein III, as this is a successor to both The new order as well as The old blood.
[/rant]

It does look liek an awesome game I'd want to play when I get my pc back up and running though... my Radeon 6870 died 3 months ago and with current availability and prices in the Netherlands it is hard to find a suitable replacement card... now sadly running a passive Geforce 9600..
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:01 pm

Topinio wrote:
PSA: currently cheaper on cdkeys.com, I just got it for £28.99 vs £39.99 on Steam direct, a 27.5% saving 8)

41.2 GB download, yay, going to take an hour +

Firestarter wrote:
well if wolfenstein says I have to buy a new GPU then I pretty much have to, right? :-?

Sounds good to me, right you are. I hear they're really cheap right now /s :-?


I got it at the same price too. Running a 7700K at 4.7 and Vega 64 I get over 100fps at 1440p all settings at the highest and it's a blast. It has it's own FPS counter but if you enable it it breaks the freesync counter. Go figure. Using the 17.10.3 drivers
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:27 pm

whm1974 wrote:
I would still be buying ID games if they were still porting them to Linux, but sadly they quit doing that a long time ago.

Id's recent games work well in Wine when not DRMed, and AFAICT Id doesn't keep heavy DRM applied for very long after a game's release.

whm1974 wrote:
Well it's not so much a political statement as I simply don't like Windows, period.

I'm with you there. I have a Win10 dual-boot now (Planetside 2's anticheat won't run in Wine), and whenever possible I'd still rather use Wine than boot Windows.
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:08 pm

Well yeah, I dislike Windows too. But I'm actually putting together a Windows 10 system (first Windows box in nearly a decade that isn't for someone else) to get back into a little gaming. Hopefully I can just upgrade one of my spare Windows 7 licenses instead of buying it fresh.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:26 pm

Windows is the best OS for gaming. That is enough for me.

To get work done I use Linux/macOS/iOS.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 am

Lordhawkwind wrote:
I got it at the same price too. Running a 7700K at 4.7 and Vega 64 I get over 100fps at 1440p all settings at the highest and it's a blast. It has it's own FPS counter but if you enable it it breaks the freesync counter. Go figure. Using the 17.10.3 drivers


I'm curious, what is the Freesync counter? I usually really on Steam's fps counter but for non-steam games I'd like to have an alternative. I have a Freesync monitor and a RX480.

Thanks
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:53 am

I fired this up yesterday (got a key on Kinguin for $36) and got into the intro. I'm looking forward to digging in - I with the new Ryzen/Vega APUs were out so I could game while on work travel, I've been waiting to get a new laptop that had some basic low-res gaming chops.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:13 am

ptsant wrote:
I'm curious, what is the Freesync counter? I usually really on Steam's fps counter but for non-steam games I'd like to have an alternative. I have a Freesync monitor and a RX480.

Thanks

My G-SYNC display has its own FPS counter that is enabled via the displays internal settings. Your display should have something similar.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:42 am

I'm well into the game at this point. Performance has been excellent even on my ancient 3770K based gaming rig. Much of the credit goes to the use of Vulkan.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:13 pm

Stupid game has been updated since I last had time to play, v 1.0.2 requires 17.10.3 which totally doesn't work on Windows 10 1607 :evil:

Why do I bother?

Image

Winsock Initialized
idCommonLocal::Init() time 20: 0.054s
------ Initializing File System ------
Current search path:
    - C:/Users/username/SAVEDG~1/MachineGames/Wolfenstein II The New Colossus/base/
    - E:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Wolfenstein.II.The.New.Colossus/base/
------ File System initialized.
WARNING: ReadJsonFile: could not read file: packagechunklist.json
Executing build.cfg...
------ Command Line ------
 "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.II.The.New.Colossus\NewColossus_x64vk.exe"
------ CPU Information ------
    1 CPU package, 4 physical cores, 8 logical cores
    3600 MHz    Intel CPU with MMX & SSE & SSE2 & SSE3 & SSSE3 & SSE41 & SSE42 & AVX & HTT
    32768 kB 1st level cache, 262144 kB 2nd level cache, 8388608 kB 3rd level cache
    32704 MB System Memory
idCommonLocal::Init() time 30: 0.056s
idLib::SetProduction( PROD_PRODUCTION )
idCommonLocal::Init() time 40: 0.261s
------- Initializing renderSystem --------
PreliminaryRenderSetup
...registered window class
-------------------------
Application Info
-------------------------
App    : Wolfenstein II The New Colossus - 1.0.2
Engine : idTech - 6.5.0
-------------------------
Instance Extensions
-------------------------
 + VK_KHR_surface
 + VK_KHR_win32_surface
 + VK_KHR_get_physical_device_properties2
-------------------------
Device Extensions
-------------------------
+ VK_AMD_rasterization_order
+ VK_AMD_shader_ballot
+ VK_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax
+ VK_AMD_gcn_shader
+ VK_EXT_shader_subgroup_ballot
+ VK_AMD_gpu_shader_half_float
+ VK_AMD_gpu_shader_int16
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
WARNING: No address, error: 126
? @ 0x4867d10d(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0xfffffffe(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0x131eb500(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0xef78df50(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0xef78df50(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0x00000000(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0x089ee800(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0x131eb401(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0xc7299933(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0x00000002(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
? @ 0xc3c50000(  ) +  bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
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ERROR: Driver is too old, please update
TIMER: idRenderSystemLocal::Init() took 2516340.0000 ms
Dumped console text to C:\Users\username\SAVEDG~1\MachineGames\Wolfenstein II The New Colossus\base\ErrorLog_11-02-2017__10-07-02pm.txt.

idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
ImageStreaming shutdown took 0.00s

***************************
ERROR: Driver is too old, please update

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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:56 am

@topinto, you may want to try this:

Highlight game in Library -> right-click "Properties" -> click "Set Launch Options" - enter +r_disableDriverVersionCheck 1"
 
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:49 am

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Well yeah, I dislike Windows too. But I'm actually putting together a Windows 10 system (first Windows box in nearly a decade that isn't for someone else) to get back into a little gaming. Hopefully I can just upgrade one of my spare Windows 7 licenses instead of buying it fresh.


You'd better be quick with that, they won't upgrade from 7 licenses for much longer.

Also be prepared to be upset. As a Linux user who only tolerates Windows 7, you're probably going to be horrified with Windows 10. I'm assuming you like Linux because it's open, flexible, customisable, and fully controllable. Those are my reasons for loving Linux, anyway.

Say goodbye to most/all of that - Windows 10 is pretty much a 20GB SaaS product these days.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:17 am

lazlopanaflex wrote:
@topinto, you may want to try this:

Highlight game in Library -> right-click "Properties" -> click "Set Launch Options" - enter +r_disableDriverVersionCheck 1"

Thanks, nice tip, but I didn't get a chance to try this. I gave up and bumped the box from 1607 to 1703, so I could actually install a post-17.10.1 Radeon driver and it actually worked.

Am not happy with either AMD (this is what release notes are for!) or Machine Games (it works on 17.10.1 perfectly well thanks).
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:01 pm

Works a treat on my Ryzen 1700 with GTX 1050 Ti at 1080p, hovering around 60 fps with the High detail preset. One interesting thing I noticed was that with full detail performance metrics enabled the CPU redlined on a pretty regular basis despite ideal green GPU usage. After a minute I realized that the CPU was bored, with 16 threads feeding a graphics card and none of them reliably utilized more than around 40%, with average values in the 15-25% range. Time to jump to a GTX 1070 soon, I reckon.
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Re: Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus – PC Specs and Features

Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:17 pm

Concupiscence wrote:
Works a treat on my Ryzen 1700 with GTX 1050 Ti at 1080p, hovering around 60 fps with the High detail preset. One interesting thing I noticed was that with full detail performance metrics enabled the CPU redlined on a pretty regular basis despite ideal green GPU usage. After a minute I realized that the CPU was bored, with 16 threads feeding a graphics card and none of them reliably utilized more than around 40%, with average values in the 15-25% range. Time to jump to a GTX 1070 soon, I reckon.


So I am guessing my GTX 645 is not quite going to cut it... :D

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