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Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:38 am

https://www.gog.com/game/diablo

Woke up this morning to find this in my inbox. It's Diablo without the Blizzard Battle.Net launcher, which is pretty great. Diablo 2 is already available directly from Blizzard, but as far as I know this is the first re-release of the original this century, and maybe in any form beyond the PSOne port (which I remember being really good, btw, but who knows if it stands up today).

I'll pick it up, if only because of my nostalgic love for all things Diablo.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:55 am

*Insert take my money meme*

I loved the original Diablo. I'll be buying this immediately.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:57 am

Just saw this on Ars. GoG will be releasing WarCraft 1 and 2, too:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/03/ ... zards-app/

I hope that the War2 release is the Battle.Net edition, which had the original and the expansion, which seems to be built on the original StarCraft engine. War2 ran in DOS previously and had MIDI music or Redbook audio. War2BNE had some streaming music similar to SC1/BW

Apparently Diablo is not something you'll want to play online, if Peter Bright's contribution to that article isn't as alarmist as it sounds. If the game has to run as admin, there's no way I'd put it online. I might even limit it to a VM if it'll run acceptably.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:05 am

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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:07 am

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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:08 am

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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:23 am

It's been nearly 20 years since I played the original, but (assuming it still works) I'd bet a 6-pack that I can still pull off a dupe in less than 5 attempts.



Edit: If it's not completely remastered, no way I would allow 1996 software through a firewall.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:31 am

The Egg wrote:
It's been nearly 20 years since I played the original, but (assuming it still works) I'd bet a 6-pack that I can still pull off a dupe in less than 5 attempts.



Edit: If it's not completely remastered, no way I would allow 1996 software through a firewall.


Dupping was comically easy for the older builds of Diablo 1. You gotta love exploiting memory buffer overflows.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:53 am

Nostalgia is one thing but a lot of old games just do not hold up well. GoG has done a good job with trying to 'modernize' these games for current hardware. However, that still doesnt stop some of those painful moments in these games.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:18 am

tanker27 wrote:
Nostalgia is one thing but a lot of old games just do not hold up well. GoG has done a good job with trying to 'modernize' these games for current hardware. However, that still doesnt stop some of those painful moments in these games.

Yeah......in this case, the interface (having to repeatedly click, even when attacking the same enemy) and the 640x480 resolution were the most painful. We'll have to see how well they address the resolution issue. Regardless, 10 bucks is the right price, if not only for the atmosphere and soundtrack.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:33 am

The Egg wrote:
tanker27 wrote:
Nostalgia is one thing but a lot of old games just do not hold up well. GoG has done a good job with trying to 'modernize' these games for current hardware. However, that still doesnt stop some of those painful moments in these games.

Yeah......in this case, the interface (having to repeatedly click, even when attacking the same enemy) and the 640x480 resolution were the most painful. We'll have to see how well they address the resolution issue. Regardless, 10 bucks is the right price, if not only for the atmosphere and soundtrack.

Yeah, I loved the first two D games, but I'm not sure I can even try to get back into either at this point. My friends and I did play the hell out of Brood War and LoD circa 2012 though. It was thoroughly enjoyable.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:53 am

The Egg wrote:
tanker27 wrote:
Nostalgia is one thing but a lot of old games just do not hold up well. GoG has done a good job with trying to 'modernize' these games for current hardware. However, that still doesnt stop some of those painful moments in these games.

Yeah......in this case, the interface (having to repeatedly click, even when attacking the same enemy) and the 640x480 resolution were the most painful. We'll have to see how well they address the resolution issue. Regardless, 10 bucks is the right price, if not only for the atmosphere and soundtrack.

Patched Diablo 1 goes to 800x600, and it doesn't (never did?) require constant clicking, just hold the button down.

I've installed the Diablo 1 HD Mod and it's great, adds higher resolution support (zoomable, too!), faster run speed in town, and a host of other UI tweaks like tabbed stash that improve the UI/UX without really messing with the game.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:00 pm

I recently played the original Diablo + Hellfire with patches but not 3rd party mods, using a VMWare Workstation Pro + Windows XP virtual machine. It worked like a charm, and the game was every bit as fun as I remembered it.

(I needed the virtual machine because Diablo + Hellfire + Windows 10 worked on a Geforce but not a Radeon. My laptop has a Geforce GTX 950M while my desktop has a Radeon RX 580. I wanted to play on my desktop, so I needed the virtual machine. I tried every third party mod I could find, e.g. replacing ddraw.dll, installing a resolution mod, etc., but nothing could get it to work on the Radeon. But the virtual machine worked.)
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:57 pm

The Egg wrote:
It's been nearly 20 years since I played the original, but (assuming it still works) I'd bet a 6-pack that I can still pull off a dupe in less than 5 attempts.



Edit: If it's not completely remastered, no way I would allow 1996 software through a firewall.

I'd go one further - I bet I could pull it off in less than 5 attempts *after* a 6-pack has been consumed. :P

I'd normally jump at this without hesitation but I still have the disks on the shelf and a VM built with the high-res mod ready to fire up. This may make me go back and get a run through before the weekend is over though. :)

morphine wrote:
I've installed the Diablo 1 HD Mod and it's great, adds higher resolution support (zoomable, too!), faster run speed in town, and a host of other UI tweaks like tabbed stash that improve the UI/UX without really messing with the game.

Ooh, that looks nice. Thanks for bringing it up!
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:33 pm

CarbotAnimation has been making cute Diablo animations the past few weeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFDGwUrQ4dU

Always worth watching his Blizzard videos, which are a great sense of cheeky in game references.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:08 pm

I still remember my terror when I found The Butcher's lair for the first time. "Ahhhh, fresh meat!"

I'll be getting this as well as Warcraft 1 & 2.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:57 am

FireGryphon wrote:
I still remember my terror when I found The Butcher's lair for the first time. "Ahhhh, fresh meat!"

You weren't nearly the only one. Many a pants were browned.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:36 am

That, weirdly enough, came up on the GSL stream this morning (I was awake REALLY early for some reason). The Butcher didn't wait or stomp his foot or anything. Just "Ahh, fresh meat!" and jump on your squishy ass. Exactly as it should be.

And he never really lost that for me. You go through an unsuspecting crack in the wall and suddenly you die. It's a jump scare, to be sure, but it's one of the scariest moments in any game.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:01 pm

I've never played the first Diablo or the first Warcraft. This is like Christmas. I'll wait until GoG has all three and see if they offer a bundle deal.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:03 pm

Chuckaluphagus wrote:
FireGryphon wrote:
I still remember my terror when I found The Butcher's lair for the first time. "Ahhhh, fresh meat!"

You weren't nearly the only one. Many a pants were browned.


Carbot's Animation for this is reaction is great: https://youtu.be/CSR5qvoWkxI?t=45
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:18 pm

So a few months ago, I replayed Diablo, and I had to use a VMWare Workstation Pro + Windows XP virtual machine to get Diablo working on my Radeon RX 580. I tried all the downloadable "patches" (which are generally just a legacy ddraw.dll to put into the Diablo installation folder), but none of them helped.

Diablo worked fine on my laptop with a Geforce GTX 950M, but I couldn't get it working on my desktop with the Radeon. Hence the VM.

But I just tried Diablo again, and now it works on the Radeon without any patches. So one of the newer AMD drivers must have fixed whatever was broken.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:59 am

Diablo 1 has a lot of good concepts, but is just so unpolished compared to some of the hellfire mods and diablo2. Hellfire has the capability of highlighting loot, and that ability is sorely needed to make diablo even vaguely tolerable. I also wish blizzard would update the engine to use direct3d and hqx texture filtering, because it's way too dated to be playing games with 90's rendering methods. I haven't tried the HD mod, but that's probably the only way I could tolerate playing the game, if it actually works. Probably give it a shot when I get some time to waste, but it doesn't look like the HD mod is being actively developed, as the last update was in 2014.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:05 am

morphine wrote:
The Egg wrote:
Yeah......in this case, the interface (having to repeatedly click, even when attacking the same enemy) and the 640x480 resolution were the most painful. We'll have to see how well they address the resolution issue. Regardless, 10 bucks is the right price, if not only for the atmosphere and soundtrack.

Patched Diablo 1 goes to 800x600, and it doesn't (never did?) require constant clicking, just hold the button down.

Patched......with the Hellfire expansion? I always remember Diablo 1 as being 640x480. Even Diablo II was 640x480 until the LOD expansion. Perhaps my 20+ year old memory fails me on being able to hold-down for attacks, but I do know that you had to continually click for navigation.


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Hellfire has the capability of highlighting loot, and that ability is sorely needed to make diablo even vaguely tolerable.

Yeah....forgot about that headache too. A few small improvements to the interface would've gone a long way. I should probably get off my butt and get the game already so I don't have to go off memory.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:44 am

Some good reading about the Hellfire expansion and the goings-on at Blizzard during that timeframe.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:36 am

I just played the HD mod a bit, and it fixes most of what I had a problem with in the stock game. Worth the install if you are replaying the game.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:07 pm

These sort of games are totally what I bought a 9900k and RTX card for.

Diablo I + Age of Empires II, here we go!
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:20 pm

jihadjoe wrote:
These sort of games are totally what I bought a 9900k and RTX card for.

:lol:
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:21 pm

There is a bit of a perverse sense of fun in running games that happily ran on a Pentium 120 on a 4+ GHz quad core and a GPU with more RAM/processing power than supercomputers at the time.
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:33 pm

jihadjoe wrote:
These sort of games are totally what I bought a 9900k and RTX card for.

Waco wrote:
There is a bit of a perverse sense of fun in running games that happily ran on a Pentium 120 on a 4+ GHz quad core and a GPU with more RAM/processing power than supercomputers at the time.

Between all the indie games like FTL/Into The Breach, etc etc, probably 20-25% of my Steam library could be made to run on a Pentium Classic.
 
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Re: Blizzard + GoG = Diablo 1 re-release

Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:02 pm

jihadjoe wrote:
Age of Empires II, here we go!

Exactly. Although the Steam edition is pretty epic. I think we've put 200 hours into the current install.

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