DreadCthulhu wrote:How much money could Microsoft really save (and thus reduce the price by) by shipping a smaller hard drive? 500 GB laptop drives are $60 at Newegg & the like, and Microsoft is surely getting a better price than that. Of course, they could chose take a larger loss on the cheap model.
superjawes wrote:I thought the Kinect was integrated into the XBone?
Even then, though, I could see the XBone having a lower price tag than a PS4, but with a catch. "Save" $100-$200 on your console by signing up for 1-2 years of Xbox Live Gold. This is also something Microsoft field tested with the Xbox 360 last year.
derFunkenstein wrote:DreadCthulhu wrote:How much money could Microsoft really save (and thus reduce the price by) by shipping a smaller hard drive? 500 GB laptop drives are $60 at Newegg & the like, and Microsoft is surely getting a better price than that. Of course, they could chose take a larger loss on the cheap model.
I wouldn't expect a smaller hard drive; I'd expect 8GB of flash and losing the ability to install discs to the internal storage. Probably a slot for an expansion drive that will, overall, wind up driving the price higher than if people had just bought the bigger drive at the start.
Narishma wrote:I don't think that's possible. Xbone (and PS4) games are played from the hard drive, not the discs. They install themselves automatically in the background while you play them.
This article says the exact opposite (and contains a link to the refuted story), so I guess we're done here.
James Carlsom wrote:I found a Youtube video explaining it. The guys are a little annoying but they'll give you the facts.
derFunkenstein wrote:This is actually what Microsoft was refuting.
Xenolith wrote:"We have no plans to introduce an Xbox One without Kinect"
The key word in the above sentence is 'introduce". After initial release we'll see an XB1 bundle without Kinect... so sometime during 2014.
Khali wrote:Relax, Khali. Take a chill pillI can't believe people are still thinking about buying a Xbone after MS tried very hard to screw you over with the DRM scheme. Remember the little thing about having to be always online, no more buying or selling used games, only being able to share the game once for only an hour with a friend? When the manure hit the rotary impeller and MS figured out this was not going to fly they finally gave in on all that but then took the only toy still on the playing field, the family sharing plan, and walked off. Not that any one could ever figure out just how the family sharing plan was supposed to work, or that it would even work at all. Then they tried to squash all the Indie game makers by not letting them on Xbox live. That dies when Sony announced its plans and welcomed the Indie crowd.
MS has shown you where they want to go with game consoles. No more owning a game, you just rent the rights to play it from them with lots of fee's for what they call extras. Push the small Indie game studios out of the picture. Oh, and there is always that little disclaimer where they reserve the rights to make changes to the equipment and serves as they feel like it. Yes they were forced to give in because of the public reaction. Does not mean they have given up in the long run.
Sony went the opposite direction with the PS4 thus giving people a better option than what MS had in mind. If that option had not been out there I believe MS would have stuck to their guns and killed the gaming console as we know it right then and there. I know where my money is going to be spent when I get the urge for a new console and it isn't with MS.
(sorry for the semi off topic rant, I could not hold it in any longer)
derFunkenstein wrote:D'awww, thank you.^^ This is why the forum needs up and down thumbs. +1 for superjawes.
derFunkenstein wrote:^^ This is why the forum needs up and down thumbs. +1 for superjawes.
Khali wrote:I have to differ on whether MS was trying to screw any one. They attempted to wipe out any used game sales unless they got a fee out of the deal. Go back and read, if you can find it now, how that was supposed to work before they backed off on the whole thing. It would have hurt and probably put out of business most of the small mom and pop used game stores. Sure you could give a game to a friend, then that friend had to pay MS a fee before they could use it. More money for MS, which is what the whole thing was about. They wanted the control over the games, even after you bought it with your money, and the right to add in fee's all over the place to control what you did with it.
Captain Ned wrote:Hmm, I don't know about that. The way I understand it, MS gets a piece of every new Xbox game sold, regardless of who published it. MS doesn't collect revenue from used console games for their systems like they do from new games. Therefore, if they eliminate used games, the only alternative is for people to buy new games if they want to play...thus increasing MS's revenue.[MS has no vested interest in eliminating GameStop and the like but the publishers clearly do.