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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:17 pm

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hahahahah idiot uses a zune! what a moron!
That's not kind, End User

Tis OK; I'm used to it. If the only thing one does with a portable music device is to burn copies from already-owned physical media to make music portable, stick with the one with better sound quality. That's the Zune.

Besides, I'd like to see the iWhatever that can get rolled over by a car in the garage and not have the slightest bit of damage when discovered the next day (that would be my daughter's Zune).

It's taken time, but my daughter tells me that some in her crowd are coming to appreciate her Zune, mainly because she's had it for 5+ years, it's been rolled over by a car, and it still works. Daughter tells me that most of her friends' iDevices have spider cracks somewhere in them and last 2 years at most.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:35 pm

I loved my zunes too. They were top of the line devices, and imo, quite a bit better than the idevices.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:43 pm

My wife killed my Zune with whatever electromagnetic field she has that kills everything, so I can't back-up any endurance claims. I can, however, anecdotally mention that anyone who toyed with it for a couple of minutes thought it much easier to use than the iPods at the time.

On topic, I feel like the Air is still the best overall choice for ultra portable laptop. By the time all the accessories you need to make this thing usable hit the market it'll be time to upgrade. Unless it's just a spreadsheet machine, I guess.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:52 pm

I've got a 4GB Zune still sitting around at my parents house. Nice enough for what it is, but I don't use it anymore - no point, since I have a smartphone. No music streaming on it or alarm clock either - just local music. Too limiting nowadays. The battery was always a bit funky on it - shutting off at about halfway through. I never bothered looking into that...

And for ultraportable, I agree - for most people looking at Macs, I think I'd recommend the Air or rMBP. (Power/screen or less weight/more battery, which do you want?) Somehow I get the feeling that like the original MBA and iPad, this first-gen model won't go very far, but future ones just might.

Speaking of iPads, it's funny to see how bad the first-gen one was. 256MB RAM, became outdated relatively quickly, and mostly useless nowadays. My summer work goes on 5 year lifecycles, and the iPad 1's they have aren't faring so well nowadays. Although I know a non-profit that might be interested in a few of those when they're finally kicked out the door, assuming they can do an offline spreadsheet for signups on it (replacing paper, clipboards, and messy handwriting). Or the iPads could be glorified clocks on the wall. :) The second-gen ones are better, except that some of those were bought fairly recently (we buy the cheapest model Apple has at education discount), and we're still planning to keep them for 5 years...
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:15 pm

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If the only thing one does with a portable music device is to burn copies from already-owned physical media to make music portable, stick with the one with better sound quality. That's the Zune.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:28 pm

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It appears that you care too much about what other people are doing.


No, it's not so much about caring but more like noticing. Being someone who has an eye for anything tech and being brand-oriented/conscious (like most folks are), I see people use certain brands and note them. With glowing Apples it's almost impossible not to see them when you walk into a coffee shop.

And then you take great joy in silently belittling the owners of those glowing Apples by dismissing their choice as Apple glitter and RDF.

Just leave them be. Most of them made an informed choice and prefer OS X to Windows.


Look, I don't know how you're taking what I said here but I'm not belittling them. I'm the kind of guy who's just happier with 'alternatives'. And even if I was (which isn't the case), why do you seem affected? What's in it for you? Or perhaps you're just in the mood for an argument today?
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:12 am

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Its absurd for someone to want to use a mouse with a MacBook. I get why PC laptop users use a mouse. It's because the trackpad on PC laptops sucks. If you have to use a mouse then connect it via Bluetooth.


Not even the macbook trackpad is good enough for Excel (and many other tasks). And for mundane tasks, some PC trackpads are within 90% of the Mac ones. But a mouse is instantly a good experience (although as you say, Bluetooth is a passable option)

Unfortunately I use Excel every day on my work supplied 15" MacBook Pro. Why is a trackpad not a good experience?


Yeah I'm sure you're doing drags and clicks all over with your usage of Excel. I'm not even bashing macbooks since they clearly have the best trackpad but it's like pretending gamepad FPS players can keep up with mouse and keyboard to compare serious usage of a mouse to a trackpad.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:30 pm

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Not even the macbook trackpad is good enough for Excel (and many other tasks).

It is for me. A mouse is archaic.

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Yeah I'm sure you're doing drags and clicks all over with your usage of Excel.

Three finger drag on an Apple trackpad equates to 0 clicks. In fact you don't need to click at all anymore or you could can add a click for an entirely different action. In addition you can configure up to 5 finger taps/clicks/gestures all with additional customized actions. The options are near endless.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:42 pm

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Thumb drives are ubiquitous in almost all businesses.

Businesses without a proper network infrastructure or budget perhaps.

Just think about it for a moment. People are walking files around. WALKING FILES AROUND! IT'S TOTALLY BATSH!!T CRAZY!


Walking large files is still faster than using the network and sometimes speed is key.

So the new MacBook sucks because if I wanted to get 120TB of Hubble date from Google it would have to be shipped to me by plane and truck. Well that settles it. I'm buying a Surface Pro 3.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:18 pm

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What on earth are you doing that requires the use of 11 USB ports when you are mobile?

Nothing, really, at least in usual life. That said, I consider the 2 ports on the right side of the lappy chassis (HP ProBook 4730) to be unusable as they interfere with the mouse hand. In the office I've got 5 things (phone, Zune, headphone DAC/amp, mouse, and printer) plugged into the hub. When the family is on the road, though, the hub is full every night (3 phones, 2 Zunes, the Garmin, and whatever else needs charging).

I use the hub so I can push all of the USB snarl behind the lappy and out of my way. Day job still involves lots of reading from legal-size loan files and having but one USB cable in the way makes that easier.

Your usage pattern is the polar opposite of mine. Which CPU do you have in that 4730?
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:26 pm

Captain Ned wrote:
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hahahahah idiot uses a zune! what a moron!
That's not kind, End User

Tis OK; I'm used to it.

Two things:

1) Captain Ned mentions 11 USB ports in a thread about ultra portables. HE WAS BASHING ULTRAPORTABLES IN A THREAD ABOUT ULTRAPORTABLES! HE IS NOT A VICTIM!

2) Dear Captain Ned. As a moderator should you not be calling out sweatshopking for completely fabricating a quote by me? I did not write the "idiot uses a zune" comment.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:09 pm

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hahahahah idiot uses a zune! what a moron!

That's not kind, End User

This post is a complete fabrication by sweatshopking. I am reporting this.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:29 pm

Just some more on my last comment about possibly having a software issue - that may be correct, but i'm not so sure anymore. One thing I'm noticing is that my UX305 is bogging down and freezing up despite having RAM to spare (brings back the old days where i learned not to be too quick on the reset button: sometimes you just have to give the computer a minute to catch up). I'm at over 50% usage of the 8gb ram, with lots of tabs open in the browser and 12 apps open, and I sleep the system a lot instead of restarting. I have the slower 5Y10 chip, and its idling at around 20+% :-? . Probably could make a case that this kind of usage is atypical, but thought I'd put that up as a data point for a potential buyer - probably worth an upgrade to the proc if available.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:57 am

I like them all but they are really pushing the fancy words on the asus side....refined white Ceramic Alloy= baked on powder coat, but it should be pretty durable and scratch resistant.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:14 am

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Thumb drives are ubiquitous in almost all businesses.

Businesses without a proper network infrastructure or budget perhaps.

More like businesses where the corporate umbrella owns a number of related subsidiaries and not all of them are on the same network backbone and/or shared drives, and as a related point, we only just implemented a seamless internal WiFi access across the entire company (1000 employees, half-dozen US locations) within the past year. My employer only issues laptops to executives and any engineers who travel routinely, so if I take work home, I tend to do it via sneakernet. Also, many businesses periodically host technical specialists and vendors who do not always show up with computer hardware that is compatible with the conference room, so a quick thumb-drive transfer of a PowerPoint presentation or demo video is the obvious solution.

In theory, you can have a business network set up to the point where all of this is completely seamless and never glitches without redundant fail-over services in place. In practice, IT is a cost center and tends to not get as much attention or budget as it ideally needs to enable such niceties, so thumb drives are one way to patch over the occasional potholes in the information superhighway.

The only reason Apple is doing this is because they are Apple, and can get away with doing pointlessly stupid "modernization" things before the market is truly ready (ah, to have been selling external USB floppy disks back when the original iMac came out).
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:23 am

Anyone heard of Thinkpad x1 carbon?
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:47 am

NEVER HEARD OF IT. IS IT A COMPUTER?
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:49 am

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End User wrote:
sweatshopking wrote:
Thumb drives are ubiquitous in almost all businesses.

Businesses without a proper network infrastructure or budget perhaps.

More like businesses where the corporate umbrella owns a number of related subsidiaries and not all of them are on the same network backbone and/or shared drives, and as a related point, we only just implemented a seamless internal WiFi access across the entire company (1000 employees, half-dozen US locations) within the past year. My employer only issues laptops to executives and any engineers who travel routinely, so if I take work home, I tend to do it via sneakernet. Also, many businesses periodically host technical specialists and vendors who do not always show up with computer hardware that is compatible with the conference room, so a quick thumb-drive transfer of a PowerPoint presentation or demo video is the obvious solution.

In theory, you can have a business network set up to the point where all of this is completely seamless and never glitches without redundant fail-over services in place. In practice, IT is a cost center and tends to not get as much attention or budget as it ideally needs to enable such niceties, so thumb drives are one way to patch over the occasional potholes in the information superhighway.

The only reason Apple is doing this is because they are Apple, and can get away with doing pointlessly stupid "modernization" things before the market is truly ready (ah, to have been selling external USB floppy disks back when the original iMac came out).

So nothing that is going to tie up a USB 3 port for more than 10 seconds.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:50 am

dodozoid wrote:
Anyone heard of Thinkpad x1 carbon?

The current X1 Carbon is very tempting.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:46 am

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So nothing that is going to tie up a USB 3 port for more than 10 seconds.

In your world, probably not. In practice, the division VP called me over a couple weeks ago because a customer they were courting had a bunch of materials they wanted to review located on a portable hard drive he had brought with him. The VP's ultraportable only had HDMI out, and we didn't have an appropriate breakout to get that converted to VGA (since the conference room in which they had chosen to set up shop only supports VGA). So we pulled a spare laptop out of the IT closet, plugged it into power, connected the client's USB hard drive, and connected video output. There were some initial glitches accessing the domain server over WiFi so we plugged it into network as well. I think they may have added a spare USB mouse off the conference table for convenience at some point. The client then continued to browse his portable hard drive and navigate material on the conference room TV as they talked for another couple hours.

This is an elaborate, but not unusual, usage scenario in a business environment. You keep your options open so that if option 'A' doesn't come through for one of any number of wild and obscure reasons, 'B' is still available. A laptop with a single USB3-C port for all functions, including charging, is not a business laptop. It is a botique laptop for botique user cases.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:42 pm

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So nothing that is going to tie up a USB 3 port for more than 10 seconds.

In your world, probably not. In practice, the division VP called me over a couple weeks ago because a customer they were courting had a bunch of materials they wanted to review located on a portable hard drive he had brought with him.
You're telling me that a business person walks around with just a USB drive? No laptop/tablet/smartphone connected to the cloud? Come on. That is ridiculous. You are pushing things to the extreme. If that is true that it is an utter failing on that persons part. In the modern world a smartphone can wirelessly output to a projector - no need for a laptop at all.

I've got 128GB of storage on my phone that is connected via Dropbox/OneDrive/Google Drive/FTP/SMB/VPN. I don't bother carrying around a USB stick.

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The VP's ultraportable only had HDMI out, and we didn't have an appropriate breakout to get that converted to VGA (since the conference room in which they had chosen to set up shop only supports VGA). So we pulled a spare laptop out of the IT closet,
Don't you have a dedicated presentation PC? We've got a dedicated presentation PC but most of the time we just WIRELESSLY connect internal and guest laptops/phones/tablets to the projection system via the internal or guest wireless network.

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So we pulled a spare laptop out of the IT closet, plugged it into power, connected the client's USB hard drive, and connected video output. There were some initial glitches accessing the domain server over WiFi so we plugged it into network as well.
It sounds as if you are stuck in the late 1990s.

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I think they may have added a spare USB mouse off the conference table for convenience at some point.
It is safe to say that if you are the type of person that uses a USB mouse with your laptop then the new MacBook is definitely not for you.

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A laptop with a single USB3-C port for all functions, including charging, is not a business laptop.
In a such an outdated and wire centric world such as yours that is a valid statement.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:55 pm

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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

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You're telling me that a business person walks around with just a USB drive? No laptop/tablet/smartphone connected to the cloud? Come on. That is ridiculous. You are pushing things to the extreme. If that is true that it is an utter failing on that persons part. In the modern world a smartphone can wirelessly output to a projector - no need for a laptop at all.

I've got 128GB of storage on my phone that is connected via Dropbox/OneDrive/Google Drive/FTP/SMB/VPN. I don't bother carrying around a USB stick.

Pushed to the extreme? Hardly. Sure, care to explain how downloading many gigs over the internet is practical? You know, vs a thumb drive that fits in my pocket and stores that much (or more) easily? Plus, if I'm getting on a shared PC to present something, thumb drives are often faster. I have the choice to use either when doing presentations at my uni, and guess what? I go with the one that's easiest and works better, not the one that's "up to date". And that, for me, happens to be a thumb drive. For MANY people, it's a thumb drive. When I see people logging into cloud services to retrieve their presentations, guess what? It often takes longer. Not the download itself, but signing in and navigating to it.

And 128GB in the cloud. Sure, let me smash up half my data cap (Comcast) and take all day downloading/uploading that. (25mbps is already better than average for the US, but that = 11.6 hrs if I ran the numbers right.) Or absolutely murder my mobile connection (5GB cap here). Or use a thumb drive and sidestep the whole issue.

Don't you have a dedicated presentation PC? We've got a dedicated presentation PC but most of the time we just WIRELESSLY connect internal and guest laptops/phones/tablets to the projection system via the internal or guest wireless network.

Some do, some don't I suppose. But wireless? No, there are PLENTY of laptops that can't easily project wirelessly. And the only wireless display receivers I've ever actually seen people use are Apple TVs - and if you've dealt with those, you'll know what a pain they are to mass manage. Clearly not meant for the enterprise. And if you think businesses move fast with projector upgrades, I'd love to know what you're on. Plenty of those projectors don't even have HDMI, much less wireless display (or devices/dongles to enable that).

It sounds as if you are stuck in the late 1990s.

Oh, I'm sorry, does reality offend you? Wired video outputs? Yeah, I haven't seen anything else in almost all places. And Windows can be a slight pain when logging into domain servers over wifi if you just booted and the domain user in question doesn't already have a profile on the local machine. (Though it generally does work well enough. I don't have users rely on ethernet, although I do for setup.) And network cables - yeah, sometimes those are actually easiest. Still the faster/more reliable option for transferring tons of data, and the only way to PXE image in general.

It is safe to say that if you are the type of person that uses a USB mouse with your laptop then the new MacBook is definitely not for you.

USB mice. Oh noes, so outdated, it hurts my senses! Never mind that it works just fine, isn't a maintenance issue (unlike old code/software), etc. And for some people, it's easier. Hell, if a user wants to use a trackball with their computer, why would I stop them? I don't care if it's not seen as "cool" or "new". If it works, it works. I've seen plenty of people who use their laptops primarily at their desk, and usually keep a mouse plugged in. It can still be a perfectly simple use case. Personally, I quit using wireless mice/keyboards a while ago because I'm tired of interference and changing batteries periodically for zero gain. Not seeing a problem with wired peripherals.

In a such an outdated and wire centric world such as yours that is a valid statement.
(laptop with one port = not a business laptop)

Sure, show me all those business laptops that lack any wires. Oh wait, they don't exist, darn it! Actually, wait, they have even more ports, if anything. Maybe that has something to do with what business laptops are actually used for, and businesses wanting functionality more than style/fads? What's next, you decide that making a biz machine razor thin is more important than upgradeability? (Never mind that most business machines are MORE upgradeable/repairable than average, not less. IT departments rather like that.) Probably the same type of guy who would want bluetooth on electronic monitoring racks for remote pumping plants or the like, because a USB cable is too ugly. (Or even 9-pin serial - some 15" biz laptops still have those ports for legacy equipment like this that's still in use and working nicely.) Like anyone's going to like wireless for those.

Needless to say though, why is having ports such a problem? Just put them in the laptop, and don't make it insanely thin. Done. I have yet to see an ethernet port or one too many USB ports kill someone. (Though it'd be funny to see one try.)
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

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You're telling me that a business person walks around with just a USB drive? No laptop/tablet/smartphone connected to the cloud? Come on. That is ridiculous. You are pushing things to the extreme. If that is true that it is an utter failing on that persons part. In the modern world a smartphone can wirelessly output to a projector - no need for a laptop at all.

I've got 128GB of storage on my phone that is connected via Dropbox/OneDrive/Google Drive/FTP/SMB/VPN. I don't bother carrying around a USB stick.

Pushed to the extreme? Hardly. Sure, care to explain how downloading many gigs over the internet is practical? You know, vs a thumb drive that fits in my pocket and stores that much (or more) easily? Plus, if I'm getting on a shared PC to present something, thumb drives are often faster. I have the choice to use either when doing presentations at my uni, and guess what? I go with the one that's easiest and works better, not the one that's "up to date". And that, for me, happens to be a thumb drive. For MANY people, it's a thumb drive. When I see people logging into cloud services to retrieve their presentations, guess what? It often takes longer. Not the download itself, but signing in and navigating to it.

And 128GB in the cloud. Sure, let me smash up half my data cap (Comcast) and take all day downloading/uploading that. (25mbps is already better than average for the US, but that = 11.6 hrs if I ran the numbers right.) Or absolutely murder my mobile connection (5GB cap here). Or use a thumb drive and sidestep the whole issue.

Don't you have a dedicated presentation PC? We've got a dedicated presentation PC but most of the time we just WIRELESSLY connect internal and guest laptops/phones/tablets to the projection system via the internal or guest wireless network.

Some do, some don't I suppose. But wireless? No, there are PLENTY of laptops that can't easily project wirelessly. And the only wireless display receivers I've ever actually seen people use are Apple TVs - and if you've dealt with those, you'll know what a pain they are to mass manage. Clearly not meant for the enterprise. And if you think businesses move fast with projector upgrades, I'd love to know what you're on. Plenty of those projectors don't even have HDMI, much less wireless display (or devices/dongles to enable that).

It sounds as if you are stuck in the late 1990s.

Oh, I'm sorry, does reality offend you? Wired video outputs? Yeah, I haven't seen anything else in almost all places. And Windows can be a slight pain when logging into domain servers over wifi if you just booted and the domain user in question doesn't already have a profile on the local machine. (Though it generally does work well enough. I don't have users rely on ethernet, although I do for setup.) And network cables - yeah, sometimes those are actually easiest. Still the faster/more reliable option for transferring tons of data, and the only way to PXE image in general.

It is safe to say that if you are the type of person that uses a USB mouse with your laptop then the new MacBook is definitely not for you.

USB mice. Oh noes, so outdated, it hurts my senses! Never mind that it works just fine, isn't a maintenance issue (unlike old code/software), etc. And for some people, it's easier. Hell, if a user wants to use a trackball with their computer, why would I stop them? I don't care if it's not seen as "cool" or "new". If it works, it works. I've seen plenty of people who use their laptops primarily at their desk, and usually keep a mouse plugged in. It can still be a perfectly simple use case. Personally, I quit using wireless mice/keyboards a while ago because I'm tired of interference and changing batteries periodically for zero gain. Not seeing a problem with wired peripherals.

In a such an outdated and wire centric world such as yours that is a valid statement.
(laptop with one port = not a business laptop)

Sure, show me all those business laptops that lack any wires. Oh wait, they don't exist, darn it! Actually, wait, they have even more ports, if anything. Maybe that has something to do with what business laptops are actually used for, and businesses wanting functionality more than style/fads? What's next, you decide that making a biz machine razor thin is more important than upgradeability? (Never mind that most business machines are MORE upgradeable/repairable than average, not less. IT departments rather like that.) Probably the same type of guy who would want bluetooth on electronic monitoring racks for remote pumping plants or the like, because a USB cable is too ugly. (Or even 9-pin serial - some 15" biz laptops still have those ports for legacy equipment like this that's still in use and working nicely.) Like anyone's going to like wireless for those.

Needless to say though, why is having ports such a problem? Just put them in the laptop, and don't make it insanely thin. Done. I have yet to see an ethernet port or one too many USB ports kill someone. (Though it'd be funny to see one try.)

This thread did not start out about the need for USB ports in the Enterprise but I do find amusing that a number of my Enterprise IT friends are fully integrating iOS and, to a lesser extent, Android into their infrastructures - no USB ports to be found whatsoever. Another friend of mine reports that is tremendously easy to request an iPad at their workplace. USB, VGA and their ilk are legacy now. Enterprise will eventually catch up.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:52 pm

Theresa N wrote:
Thus disproving that all Canadians are polite.

Ja ja. sweatshopking is Canadian and he posts false quotes!
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:23 pm

End User wrote:
Theresa N wrote:
Thus disproving that all Canadians are polite.

Ja ja. sweatshopking is Canadian and he posts false quotes!

I'm hearing an awfully big *woosh* sound right about now. I also like how you didn't actually address what I said.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:22 am

localhostrulez wrote:
I also like how you didn't actually address what I said.

It was dinner time and I was faint with hunger.

localhostrulez wrote:
Sure, care to explain how downloading many gigs over the internet is practical? You know, vs a thumb drive that fits in my pocket and stores that much (or more) easily? Plus, if I'm getting on a shared PC to present something, thumb drives are often faster. I have the choice to use either when doing presentations at my uni, and guess what? I go with the one that's easiest and works better, not the one that's "up to date". And that, for me, happens to be a thumb drive. For MANY people, it's a thumb drive. When I see people logging into cloud services to retrieve their presentations, guess what? It often takes longer. Not the download itself, but signing in and navigating to it.

Then it’s a good thing the MacBook has a fast USB 3.1 Gen 1 port so I’ll be able to connect my thumb drive.

localhostrulez wrote:
And 128GB in the cloud. Sure, let me smash up half my data cap (Comcast) and take all day downloading/uploading that. (25mbps is already better than average for the US, but that = 11.6 hrs if I ran the numbers right.) Or absolutely murder my mobile connection (5GB cap here). Or use a thumb drive and sidestep the whole issue.

Technically it is 128GB of data on a connected device (smartphone) that is in my pocket. Putting the smartphone aside it is a good thing the MacBook has a fast USB 3.1 Gen 1 port so I’ll be able to connect my thumb drive.

localhostrulez wrote:
Plenty of those projectors don't even have HDMI, much less wireless display (or devices/dongles to enable that).

If I had to use such a projector it’s a good thing the USB 3.1 Gen 1 port supports VGA, a connected thumb drive, and charging all at once.

localhostrulez wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, does reality offend you? Wired video outputs?

No offence taken as it’s not my reality.

localhostrulez wrote:
Not seeing a problem with wired peripherals.

I like using the laptop keyboard and trackpad so I have no need for a wired keyboard/mouse.

localhostrulez wrote:
why is having ports such a problem?

Ports are fine if you need them but as this discussion is about a laptop with only one I'm trying to explain why one is enough for me. Apart from supplying power the one USB port on the my future MacBook will remain unused 99.9% of the time. Bluetooth and 802.11ac will take care of the vast majority of my data transfer needs. I'm basing this on past usage with my 11" MBA and current usage on my work 15" MBP. Based upon how I use my smartphone and tablet I already live in a world where USB/Ethernet for data transfer is not necessary at all.
 
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:59 am

Anandtech has posted their review of the Zenbook UX305. It's worth a read relating to this thread.

[Add:] In response to the CPU choice, see page 4 of the article. Core M performance will fluctuate widely from throttling based on thermal constraints of the cooling system and the manufacturers' choices on target CPU temps. In that article, you see the Yoga 3 Pro's Core M5Y71 (with active cooling) get beat by the Zenbook's passively cooled Core M5Y10 in some sustained loads.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:21 pm

End User: I can't really quote-slog all of that in the limited time we have left before our funerals, suffice to say the usage scenario I described is accurate and real at the time and place which it occurred, i.e., less than a month ago. I'm not actually IT, I'm an engineer who wears two hats because our branch office is currently small and corporate is not ready to staff a full-time IT position at our location. As I said before, IT is a cost center, and while there are ideal ways of doing things, budgets given to IT departments do not always allow the ideal things to be implemented tomorrow morning.

The Apple laptop configuration under debate is an outlier, equivalent to a concept car to get everyone talking about what the future might look like, as opposed to a truly viable solution for everyone in the present. When a potential customer is already in the conference room with the division VP who flew in from HQ the day before, and a project agreement worth a few hundred thousand is being negotiated, and said client pulls out a portable hard drive with his Gant charts and cost tables queued up thereon, you don't tell him to go sign up for a better phone and a Dropbox account and then "get back with us." You find the equipment to make it happen RIGHT NOW and that means prioritizing function over form.

Or you buy the Asus Zenbook and get both, it would appear.
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Re: Asus Zenbook UX305 and the new Macbook

Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:40 pm

End User wrote:
You're telling me that a business person walks around with just a USB drive? No laptop/tablet/smartphone connected to the cloud? Come on. That is ridiculous. You are pushing things to the extreme. If that is true that it is an utter failing on that persons part.


End User wrote:
Ports are fine if you need them but as this discussion is about a laptop with only one I'm trying to explain why one is enough for me


No.

You weren't.

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