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ozzuneoj wrote:If I wanted something like this... should I actually consider getting a cheap refurb iPad (probably a 3rd gen or better) to do this? Or is there a decent alternative I've missed? I really don't need to spend money on this kind of thing, its just something that has sounded interesting to me in recent years and GarageBand is the first application I've seen that seemed close to what I've been looking for.
ozzuneoj wrote:Help me. I don't want to get sucked into Apple world...
ozzuneoj wrote:I'm into all sorts of types of music from death metal to chiptune, though I mostly prefer progressive metal... but some times I just get a tune in my head and wish I could make it happen and save\record it for later. I've tried learning instruments, and did play a little bit of guitar years ago but wasn't able to stick with it. I simply don't have the time for another time consuming hobby. A quick and easy music creation app is more my speed.
LASR wrote:ozzuneoj wrote:Help me. I don't want to get sucked into Apple world...
You won't be sucked into anything. Use the right tool for the job. That could mean iPad today, Surface tomorrow. You're not bound to any particular product.
Crayon Shin Chan wrote:As an aside, there's a good reason why Apple products are expensive.
meerkt wrote:Android had/has deficiencies in its audio stack when it comes to latency.
Firestarter wrote:They can price their products high because they're very good (often the best) and people are willing to pay for that, but that doesn't mean that all that extra money that people are paying goes into engineering the best hardware and software stack for what you need, it merely needs to be good enough.
Atradeimos wrote:
Convert wrote:
Your picture is stupid.
Atradeimos wrote:Based only on the photo, maybe the bottom one. The micro USB jack is closer to the front of the device, so it's more likely that even with a bulky plug it could lie flat on a table when charging.These are two identically priced phones. Which would you say is better engineered?
meerkt wrote:Atradeimos wrote:Based only on the photo, maybe the bottom one. The micro USB jack is closer to the front of the device, so it's more likely that even with a bulky plug it could lie flat on a table when charging.These are two identically priced phones. Which would you say is better engineered?
Atradeimos wrote:The picture links to a post that explains it.
Free advisory of the day - posting "I don't understand" will usually get you further than "this is stupid."
Edit: Deleted initial pithy response in favor of a more neutral outlook.
Convert wrote:
You assume I didn't understand what the stupid picture is implying.
Convert wrote:Then you didn't understand my response.
Convert wrote:Then you didn't understand my response.
Pizzapotamus wrote:I clicked through on your ridiculous picture and if details are so important
Pizzapotamus wrote:than the usb port being intentionally(?) towards the top of the phone
localhostrulez wrote:Even so - the point is paying attention to the little fine details that make a product nice. If Samsung couldn't be bothered to align things, what else did they cut corners on? Plenty of merit if you ask me.
localhostrulez wrote:Even so - the point is paying attention to the little fine details that make a product nice. If Samsung couldn't be bothered to align things, what else did they cut corners on? Plenty of merit if you ask me.
Atradeimos wrote:Why would it be intentional?
Convert wrote:1. The picture you posted is about design, not really engineering. I'm sure you'd be eager to get in to the pedantics of it but it was a design decision here, not an engineering one and it shows no great engineering prowess to line up holes in the way that they did.
Convert wrote:Most people use the terms interchangeably so either way I guess I know what you are getting at. Over-engineering is bad engineering, and one could say making sure unrelated holes line up for visuals would be bad engineering. Your whole argument then boils down to their product having more attention to visual design details, which no one would argue against and Firestarter isn't talking about.
2. There are so many more important things than hole alignment. Hence the burgers, there are many merits to a product. Hole alignment for visuals, is at the back of the book, last paragraph, bottom line and is written up the side of the page in tiny letters because you ran out of room with all the arguably important stuff.
Convert wrote:3. Using a picture to show unrelated hole alignment to imply anything more than Apple's desire for the phone to be visually consistent is stupid. You can't even imply that they were so detailed about how the holes aligned, that the rest of the phone is better in any way than a phone that doesn't have unrelated holes aligned.
Convert wrote:4. Because you posted this picture and used it in the way that you did, it was clear it was a complete waste of time to change your opinion or debate this issue. An equally stupid picture asking a equally stupid question was the only good response because it at least provided a equal "WTF does that have to do with anything".
Convert wrote:5. I guess if you wanted a more apples to apples comparison I could have photoshoped the burgers still wrapped and asked which ones were assembled closest to their marketing material. Clearly the ones that pay more attention to their wrapping paper design also make a better burger in every conceivable way.
Convert wrote:In Apples case it is true that they tend to make not only visually pleasing products but solid hardware
Convert wrote:but it's not always true and it does not mean that a competitor can't make a equally good or superior phone from a hardware/software point of view.
just brew it! wrote:Could be the difference between using off-the-shelf components and connectors vs. more costly custom ones.
JustAnEngineer wrote:It could also be that someone sacrificed electrical performance, mechanical strength, efficient use of space and manufacturing costs in the name of matching a design aesthetic. That sort of prioritization is bad engineering.
BlackDove wrote:Have you felt how cheap Apple(Foxconn) stuff is compared to better manufacturers? Who cares where the holes are lol.