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Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:10 pm

 Budget of 1500CDn, go!  (so that would be 1200ish USD?)
Doing some research for someone else, seems like it's hard to find one that has a decent gfx, SSD for that price.  I'm given to think we'd rather want an SSD and HDD combo, but seems on a budget there isn't much available that meets that criteria.  Something like ASUS Rog GL752VW i7 seems good, I don't know what a GTX960M is, though, and it only has an HDD.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:12 pm

In general, my answer is "no". Things have gotten better in this space in the past few years, but they always feel overpriced and underpowered to me. I'd definitely try to find something from the 10 series from Nvidia, there was a massive leap forward in mobile capability with them.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:25 pm

Waco wrote:
In general, my answer is "no".  Things have gotten better in this space in the past few years, but they always feel overpriced and underpowered to me.  I'd definitely try to find something from the 10 series from Nvidia, there was a massive leap forward in mobile capability with them.

That's my feeling as well, but this is not for me, we're going to have to go at this from the standpoint that it's going to happen, we just want the best machine.  Not to make assumptions about gender either, but it's for a teenage girl that plays things like the Sims, so no need to go full enthusiast.  A co-worker suggested there's even ultrabooks with discrete GPUs out there that may be an option rather than specifically "gaming" laptops.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:32 pm

While I agree with Waco that a GTX 1060 would be better, those are around $1,800 CAD

In your price range, the Asus GL551VW for $1,100 CAD and slap an SSD in it.  This one is a good deal slower than above.  I'd say, if you can, try to save an extra $300.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:54 pm

I can only recommend what I have, which is a Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLK. It has a full quad core i5-6300 HQ, 256GB SSD (with room for a second), 8gb RAM, and a 960m. I've owned it for a bit over a year and can definitely recommend it. It'll run 2015 and earlier games really well and will still probably do decent with 2016 games. It'll run The Sims and games like that no problem.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:57 pm

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  I don't know what a GTX960M is,

The 960m and 860m are equivalent to desktop 750 Tis.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:01 pm

@southerncomfortjm: that Dell would be a good choice.$1,200 CAD and it has a 4GB GTX 960m and a 256GB SSD which my previous Asus recommendation didn't have.

@OP, if your daughter only plays the Sims, she doesn't really need more than a GTX960m.  Even that is probably more than she needs.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:02 pm

DrDominodog51 wrote:
captaintrav wrote:
  I don't know what a GTX960M is,

The 960m and 860m are equivalent to desktop 750 Tis.

Yeah, I decided to get off my butt a little and do some research, the 950M looks more or less like a desktop 750 vanilla.  All good enough for basic gaming in my experience,  It does look like a 1060 would be a big step upwards, but those are around 1700 at the cheapest I've found.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:34 pm

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@southerncomfortjm: that Dell would be a good choice.$1,200 CAD and it has a 4GB GTX 960m and a 256GB SSD which my previous Asus recommendation didn't have.

@OP, if your daughter only plays the Sims, she doesn't really need more than a GTX960m.  Even that is probably more than she needs.

Always good to get a bit more than needed unless he really wants to save every dollar, even if it is a Canadian dollar.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:45 pm

southrncomfortjm wrote:
DPete27 wrote:
@southerncomfortjm: that Dell would be a good choice.$1,200 CAD and it has a 4GB GTX 960m and a 256GB SSD which my previous Asus recommendation didn't have.

@OP, if your daughter only plays the Sims, she doesn't really need more than a GTX960m.  Even that is probably more than she needs.

Always good to get a bit more than needed unless he really wants to save every dollar, even if it is a Canadian dollar.

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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:49 pm

GTX 970m for $1,500CAD then?  It's probably more than she needs, but it's in budget.  Quite a lot of nice features also.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:54 pm

GeForce GTX965M is similar to a desktop GTX950.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Productcom ... D233%2D162

That Asus ROG G752VL-DH71 has a 17" IPS display.  Of course, once you venture into the realm of "Desktop Replacement", you would usually be better off to actually have a desktop PC.  Use a desktop PC for gaming and carry a thin-and-light ultrabook with integrated graphics for your mobile needs.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:19 am

I am mostly pretty satisfied with my MSI GE72 Apache 235 ($1000 USD). I like the 17.3" IPS screen for gaming WOW. The battery life is poor when gaming; I use the adapter to game. But its good for a few hours if you are just web surfing. The GTX 960M is good enough to play WOW and even in raid. I went with the older i7-5700HQ model because it had more M.2 slots than the newer models. I wanted to run it with Win7 Pro rather than the Win 8.1 it came bundled with and here is how I did that. My only gripe is that the Steel Series Full-color backlit keyboard is not nearly as nice as one would suppose because so much light leaks around the base of the keys, that in the dark, the tops of the keys are barely visible.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:55 pm

If The Sims is the only thing in question, even integrated graphics might be an option. That should run on just about anything. I'm currently sitting on some Haswell IGP gaming results that might be useful, I"ll try to get those posted this weekend.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:27 pm

NovusBogus wrote:
If The Sims is the only thing in question, even integrated graphics might be an option.  That should run on just about anything.  I'm currently sitting on some Haswell IGP gaming results that might be useful, I"ll try to get those posted this weekend.

The Sims 4 should run fine on Haswell-based integrated graphics and better, though it won't run at what the developers think are ideal (there's a forum thread on The Sims 4's technical support sub-forum in the official forums - all integrated graphics are considered below recommended spec). I think this might depend on how much visual quality one wants (TS4 looks pretty bad at the lowest settings), so there might be a need for graphics "good enough" to get to at least Medium. I believe the thread will separate the video cards/GPUs in terms of under min spec, meets min spec barely, comfortable but not quite recommended, ideal, and then the overkill ones where you shouldn't have this GPU just to play Sims 4. As an example, a GTX 970 is considered overkill, while a 960 is considered pretty much "ideal" as far as the game is concerned.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:39 am

Any of the ASUS ROG series laptops that I have toyed with have been great systems.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:39 am

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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:52 am

Absolutely avoid anything with 9-series graphics.

If a GTX1060 is over your budget, wait until late Jan for the 1050Ti models to pop up.

I'm not in your part of the world but I'd be looking at a quad i7 / 16GB / 1TB / 1060 / 1080p IPS and then put an M.2 SSD in there for OS and applications.
If that budget is too high, compromise on CPU and RAM. An i3 or an i5 are going to be fine for mobile gaming and the RAM can be upgraded later but you can't change the screen and the lowest I would consider for 1080p gaming is a GTX1050 which is likely to be significantly faster than a GTX960m whilst using less power; Less power matters - the battery life isn't really a concern with Optimus laptops, but it means a lighter, thinner laptop that's easier to cool quietly.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:03 am

XPS 15 with a 1050 will be out soon.  Best build quality in the business with solid graphics.  Do NOT buy the 4K screen option, buy the larger battery, and enjoy excellent omph/battery life.

Most gaming laptops are decent at gaming (within their constraints) but terrible laptops.  I'd rather buy a great laptop that can plausibly game than a GAMERZ laptop that struggles in general usability areas.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:17 am

How about this ($1,229 USD):  http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8151-clevo-p650rp6.html

15.6" screen, i7-6700HQ, GTX1060, 8GB RAM, but only 1TB HD (no SSD).  No OS either.  Still, gets the graphics where you want it and a SSD (or more RAM) can be added later.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:49 am

I lean heavily toward the Dell camp as well.  I have been inside hundreds of laptops and in my opinion the build quality of the Precision/XPS/Alienware lines is top notch.  If you find one that is a bit more expensive than your budget don't hesitate to give Dell sales a call and see what they can do with the price.  They are very friendly and usually can work something out.  Just ordered myself the Alienware 13 R3 1440p OLED last week.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:26 am

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How about this ($1,229 USD):  http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8151-clevo-p650rp6.html

15.6" screen, i7-6700HQ, GTX1060, 8GB RAM, but only 1TB HD (no SSD).  No OS either.  Still, gets the graphics where you want it and a SSD (or more RAM) can be added later.

The Clevo rebrands often run hot and/or loud with weak battery life. 
I'm leery of any second-tier laptop OEM (e.g. not Dell/Razer/etc.).  Build quality and fine-tuning are so much important in the laptop space.  There's nothing fun in buying a premium gaming laptop only to have it fall apart or throttle under load.  If he can wait six months for revision 2 hardware and manufacturer refurbs, there will be better options out there.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:41 am

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The Clevo rebrands often run hot and/or loud with weak battery life.  
I'm leery of any second-tier laptop OEM (e.g. not Dell/Razer/etc.).  Build quality and fine-tuning are so much important in the laptop space.  There's nothing fun in buying a premium gaming laptop only to have it fall apart or throttle under load.  If he can wait six months for revision 2 hardware and manufacturer refurbs, there will be better options out there.

I have a Sager and don't have any of the issues you mention.  What you are mentioning I see in a 5.5 year-old Anandtech review (and don't get me wrong, I think Anandtech does great work, but 5 years ago is a lifetime in tech):  http://www.anandtech.com/show/4458/alienwares-m17x-r3-an-antidote-to-clevo
More recent discussions from the past year show the gap has lessened significantly: http://www.notebookreview.com/feature/asus-vs-sager-asus-vs-dell-alienware-woes-more-from-the-nbr-forums/
 https://www.reddit.com/r/SuggestALaptop/comments/2tw8b9/sager_np8652_clevo_p650sg_alienware_15_or/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SuggestALaptop/comments/3asj5j/gaming_laptop_alienware_vs_sager/
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Waiting 6 months in tech will almost always net you something new (Intel will have new processors in a few months, though no new graphics cards on the horizon).  Price reductions could happen, though this is usually a good time of year to buy.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:21 am

I suggest you should go for Asus ROG GL552. It is a good laptop with good value for money. It’s powered by a2.6-GHz Intel Core i7 6700 HQ with a Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M with 2GB graphics card. It includes a 1TB hard drive which offers blistering speeds .Also its sleek , stylish design makes it even more desirable.
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:32 am

mattshwink wrote:
Kretschmer wrote:
The Clevo rebrands often run hot and/or loud with weak battery life.  
I'm leery of any second-tier laptop OEM (e.g. not Dell/Razer/etc.).  Build quality and fine-tuning are so much important in the laptop space.  There's nothing fun in buying a premium gaming laptop only to have it fall apart or throttle under load.  If he can wait six months for revision 2 hardware and manufacturer refurbs, there will be better options out there.

I have a Sager and don't have any of the issues you mention.  What you are mentioning I see in a 5.5 year-old Anandtech review (and don't get me wrong, I think Anandtech does great work, but 5 years ago is a lifetime in tech):  http://www.anandtech.com/show/4458/alienwares-m17x-r3-an-antidote-to-clevo
More recent discussions from the past year show the gap has lessened significantly: http://www.notebookreview.com/feature/asus-vs-sager-asus-vs-dell-alienware-woes-more-from-the-nbr-forums/
 https://www.reddit.com/r/SuggestALaptop/comments/2tw8b9/sager_np8652_clevo_p650sg_alienware_15_or/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SuggestALaptop/comments/3asj5j/gaming_laptop_alienware_vs_sager/
The Alienware 15 is a fine machine, but about $150 over budget.  It does come with Windows 10 and a 150GB SSD.  I tend to stay away from companies like Dell simply because of they tend to put bloatware in (though, admittedly I am not sure if they still do this).  I like the customization options Xotic offers, and their service is top notch too.
Waiting 6 months in tech will almost always net you something new (Intel will have new processors in a few months, though no new graphics cards on the horizon).  Price reductions could happen, though this is usually a good time of year to buy.

My comments are based on doing a lot of research around Summer 2014; it is possible that Clevo/Sager have upped their game since then.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:01 pm

I'll agree that the high-end Dell laptops are really well made but they are far from immune to stupid issues. I've had XPS laptops across the last few years come to me with serious WiFi issues (too much metal and not enough radio-transparent plastic windows) as well as thermal throttling on several, including my own personal XPS that I bought because I was so impressed with the build quality.

Basically, everyone tries to put too much CPU/GPU into a laptop that's too thin and the end result is overheat. The only way to guarantee it is to get a hulking great big 17" gamer laptop with all the cooling but dial back the CPU a bit - so maybe a 1060 instead of a 1070. 

This is why I'm waiting for the 1050 and 1050Ti laptops. I could just buy a 1060 now and be done with it, but I actually want something with a lower power draw so that it can game on batteries and run without making too much noise or cooking itself.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:04 pm

There are no good/great options.

Best bets are Dell XPS and Sager/Clevo, but even there it's not worth the expense unless portability is everything.


Chrispy_:

This is why I'm waiting for the 1050 and 1050Ti laptops. I could just buy a 1060 now and be done with it, but I actually want something with a lower power draw so that it can game on batteries and run without making too much noise or cooking itself.

Yeah, you're done. Gaming on a laptop battery isn't going to be the way you want. If you are dead-serious about portable gaming, a larger Android tablet is going to be your sole >1 hour option.
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:53 pm

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I'll agree that the high-end Dell laptops are really well made but they are far from immune to stupid issues. I've had XPS laptops across the last few years come to me with serious WiFi issues (too much metal and not enough radio-transparent plastic windows) as well as thermal throttling on several, including my own personal XPS that I bought because I was so impressed with the build quality.

Basically, everyone tries to put too much CPU/GPU into a laptop that's too thin and the end result is overheat. The only way to guarantee it is to get a hulking great big 17" gamer laptop with all the cooling but dial back the CPU a bit - so maybe a 1060 instead of a 1070. 

This is why I'm waiting for the 1050 and 1050Ti laptops. I could just buy a 1060 now and be done with it, but I actually want something with a lower power draw so that it can game on batteries and run without making too much noise or cooking itself.

Agreed. The 1050 XPS 15 is tempting to replace my 2015 XPS 13 for extra screen size and oomph if the battery life is comparable. I could theoretically hook such a laptop up to an external GPU chassis/dock and go desktop-free!
 
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

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This is why I'm waiting for the 1050 and 1050Ti laptops. I could just buy a 1060 now and be done with it, but I actually want something with a lower power draw so that it can game on batteries and run without making too much noise or cooking itself.

Yeah, you're done. Gaming on a laptop battery isn't going to be the way you want. If you are dead-serious about portable gaming, a larger Android tablet is going to be your sole >1 hour option.


Wait, what now? Not only are you completely wrong - I played Starcraft II for the whole 90 minute train journey back on my GTX650m-equipped laptop without any problems, and that was one of these "inefficient" and "poor battery life" Clevo notebooks - I would expect with way more efficient GPUs and the steady improvements intel have made to CPU efficiency I could now run a more demanding game for even longer.

you also can't run the Windows games that this gaming laptop thread implies on an android tablet, and surely everyone just uses their phones instead of tablets for that?!
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Re: Suggestions for gaming laptop.

Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:21 pm

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Chrispy_:
This is why I'm waiting for the 1050 and 1050Ti laptops. I could just buy a 1060 now and be done with it, but I actually want something with a lower power draw so that it can game on batteries and run without making too much noise or cooking itself.

Yeah, you're done. Gaming on a laptop battery isn't going to be the way you want. If you are dead-serious about portable gaming, a larger Android tablet is going to be your sole >1 hour option.


Wait, what now? Not only are you completely wrong - I played Starcraft II for the whole 90 minute train journey back on my GTX650m-equipped laptop without any problems, and that was one of these "inefficient" and "poor battery life" Clevo notebooks - I would expect with way more efficient GPUs and the steady improvements intel have made to CPU efficiency I could now run a more demanding game for even longer.

you also can't run the Windows games that this gaming laptop thread implies on an android tablet, and surely everyone just uses their phones instead of tablets for that?!

Starcraft II for 90 minute train ride is entirely believable. I was more thinking "4 hours of Fallout 4 offline", which is similar but won't happen for any laptop that might be capable of running the game.

If you're talking about short train rides with RTS's, then sure a modern 720P low-end-dedicated video card laptop is probably fine.

I mentioned Tablets because I'm aware that 3+ hour 3d-accelerated games are entirely possible to play on them. Interestingly, the KOTOR games are now in the Play store, although I haven't picked them up yet.
I have never understood the mindset of folks who are very hostile to science and progress and yet still use the products produced by the use of science, and still live in a modern society as well.

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