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End User wrote:
DragonDaddyBear wrote:I'm one of the remaining few. I love my Lumia 950. I like the continuum dock I'm using to type this and listen to music on a DAC/amp. The integration with Skype on my desktop is pretty sweet, too. Cortana has.a "driving mode" and asks me if I want to hear my texts/Skype messages. Lack of hardware widely available hardware and apps killed it.
Vhalidictes wrote:Unlike a lot of big-company projects, Windows Mobile could have been a contender. Why Nadella killed Ballmer's only good idea is a mystery for the ages.
MileageMayVary wrote:I gave up mine a year ago but it was a damn good OS. Way better UI than Android and iOS.
MileageMayVary wrote:I gave up mine a year ago but it was a damn good OS. Way better UI than Android and iOS.
End User wrote:MileageMayVary wrote:I gave up mine a year ago but it was a damn good OS. Way better UI than Android and iOS.
Apps > UI
ludi wrote:End User wrote:MileageMayVary wrote:I gave up mine a year ago but it was a damn good OS. Way better UI than Android and iOS.
Apps > UI
¿Por que no los dos?
Kougar wrote:ludi wrote:End User wrote:Apps > UI
¿Por que no los dos?
Because apps make or break the phone experience, and people judge the OS as a result.
DreadCthulhu wrote:I think Microsoft forcing the tile-based UI on desktop Windows 8 ended up backfiring on them; MS obviously did this with the intent of using their desktop monopoly to get people accustomed to this UI, and thus want the same thing on their phones. Only people ended up hating it on the desktop, so when they saw it on a phone (where the UI makes some sense) they turned 360 degrees and walked away.
Yan wrote:DreadCthulhu wrote:I think Microsoft forcing the tile-based UI on desktop Windows 8 ended up backfiring on them; MS obviously did this with the intent of using their desktop monopoly to get people accustomed to this UI, and thus want the same thing on their phones. Only people ended up hating it on the desktop, so when they saw it on a phone (where the UI makes some sense) they turned 360 degrees and walked away.
Exactly. Microsoft thought that users would have to use Windows 8 on the desktop, and that this would help push Windows on the phone, but Windows 8 was so unpopular that it hurt rather than helped Windows Mobile. Microsoft found out it could no longer force the market, as IBM has earlier discovered with its Micro Channel architecture.
Remember "fast and fluid"?
caconym wrote:Yeah, wife and I were very happy with our Lumias but the app gap just got worse and worse. Once our bank stopped supporting their Windows app we had to switch.
I've been on a Galaxy S5 for a couple years and hate it. Tasks that were fluid and instantaneous on my 2011-vintage Windows phone somehow lag for 1-2 seconds on the much newer Samsung.
Buub wrote:Yan wrote:DreadCthulhu wrote:I think Microsoft forcing the tile-based UI on desktop Windows 8 ended up backfiring on them; MS obviously did this with the intent of using their desktop monopoly to get people accustomed to this UI, and thus want the same thing on their phones. Only people ended up hating it on the desktop, so when they saw it on a phone (where the UI makes some sense) they turned 360 degrees and walked away.
Exactly. Microsoft thought that users would have to use Windows 8 on the desktop, and that this would help push Windows on the phone, but Windows 8 was so unpopular that it hurt rather than helped Windows Mobile. Microsoft found out it could no longer force the market, as IBM has earlier discovered with its Micro Channel architecture.
Remember "fast and fluid"?
It wasn't even the issue of whether Microsoft could "force" the market. I think the market would have gone along with it if Windows 8 hadn't been so obviously, horribly bad on the desktop. Pushing a really wrong idea is what cost MS dearly in the Windows 8 timeframe. Had they approached the whole thing with something less broken, they may have been successful.
As I have pointed out in the past, Apple gets that the mobile and desktop experiences are different. It has been slowly converging the two where it makes sense, but they didn't take a giant hammer and declare them identical, no matter what you naives may think about it.
End User wrote:caconym wrote:Yeah, wife and I were very happy with our Lumias but the app gap just got worse and worse. Once our bank stopped supporting their Windows app we had to switch.
I've been on a Galaxy S5 for a couple years and hate it. Tasks that were fluid and instantaneous on my 2011-vintage Windows phone somehow lag for 1-2 seconds on the much newer Samsung.
Lag?
End User wrote:Classic Shell made Windows 8 useable.
Yan wrote:End User wrote:Classic Shell made Windows 8 useable.
If your OS is only usable if users install another program, you've got problems.
drfish wrote:I still don't understand the hate for Win8/8.1. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to have Win10 instead, but who spends enough time in the start menu that it mattered? It's not like there wasn't a normal taskbar and desktop.
drfish wrote:all because they couldn't live without Waze.
drfish wrote:I still don't understand the hate for Win8/8.1
Yan wrote:users simply stayed with Windows 7.