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Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:27 pm

Yep. The uproar over headphone jack was ridiculous. Clearly the market didn’t care.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/0 ... one-7-jack
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:37 pm

They might've sold even better if they had a headphone jack. :wink:

I'm sure the Note 7 debacle also helped iPhone sales.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:54 pm

So much good info in your link End User. I probably wouldn't have made it through the day without that. Thanks.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:54 pm

End User wrote:
Yep. The uproar over headphone jack was ridiculous. Clearly the market didn’t care.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/0 ... one-7-jack

They cared. However, Apple gave them the chance to courageously partecipate the cause by shelling off $150 for a pair of air pods and they happily did. 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:11 pm

Yet another triumph of style over common sense. 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:03 pm

Is End User, like, a Gruber repost bot or something? For somebody who said he'd give Apple an F overall he sure is ready to celebrate their successes.

Apple needs to fail in the worst way so Tim and Jhonny get their heads out of their asses.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:01 am

It's all about mobile applications and their delivery. Wired headphone audio is just one of them, and it has decent wireless substitutes.
 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:28 pm

just brew it! wrote:
They might've sold even better if they had a headphone jack. :wink:

I'm sure the Note 7 debacle also helped iPhone sales.

Removing features never hurt anything, the phone will remain popular. The Blackberry Storm removed the hardware keyboard and no one minded that at all. 

Of course a few people complained, some always do, but nothing substantive came of it.
 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:32 pm

Say what?!? The Storm was a complete disaster sales wise.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:42 pm

K-L-Waster wrote:
Say what?!? The Storm was a complete disaster sales wise.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/25/worst-smartph ... rry-storm/

From the article: "The device initially sold well thanks to the strength of the BlackBerry brand and a major marketing push from Verizon".

Of course the comparison won't be exact, it's a different product from a different time. There are just... a few similarities.
 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:49 pm

Vhalidictes wrote:
Removing features never hurt anything...


What?
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:51 pm

Vhalidictes wrote:
From the article: "The device initially sold well thanks to the strength of the BlackBerry brand and a major marketing push from Verizon".
Of course the comparison won't be exact, it's a different product from a different time. There are just... a few similarities.

But it was being marketed as an iPhone competitor, and the people buying it were not necessarily traditional Blackberry customers.  When it failed to meet either the performance or the quality expectations the iPhone had established, it crashed and burned.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:00 pm

IOW it sold well until people figured out it sucked.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:06 pm

I suspect that the main competitor literally burning people's houses down might have something to do with it.
 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:07 pm

DancinJack wrote:
Vhalidictes wrote:
Removing features never hurt anything...


What?

Sorry, next time I'll /sarc. 

Apple seems pretty bent on hastening their decline, but then, they don't realize they're in decline, just like Nokia didn't for the longest time.
 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:08 pm

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I suspect that the main competitor literally burning people's houses down might have something to do with it.

That sure was one heck of a tailwind. So much so that we'll have to wait for the iPhone 8 before we can tell if Apple's peaked yet.
 
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:32 pm

The other thing is no one ever went bankrupt under-estimating the general public. Amongst the  non-technical, iPhones are considered to be the best because marketing and received wisdom says they are the best: details like actual functionality delivered vs price are largely ignored. (From what I can tell the iPhone 7 is a capable phone, but I can't see anything that makes it worth 2x what I paid for my Nexus 6P).
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:34 pm

Vhalidictes wrote:
DancinJack wrote:
Vhalidictes wrote:
Removing features never hurt anything...


What?

Sorry, next time I'll /sarc. 

Apple seems pretty bent on hastening their decline, but then, they don't realize they're in decline, just like Nokia didn't for the longest time.


Ahhh, OK. I seriously couldn't tell.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:11 pm

For a "doomed since time immemorial" company, they somehow have the uncanny ability to have their worst division that makes dead-as-disco tablets outperform AMD's entire yearly revenue and profit in a single quarter.
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Re: Even Without A Headphone Jack, iPhone 7 Boosts Apple’s Sales

Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:54 pm

Don't forget that the Bluetooth Beats line was integrated and introduced a bit before the jack was removed.  ;)

https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2014/05/28Apple-to-Acquire-Beats-Music-Beats-Electronics.html

Amazing marketing.

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