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derFunkenstein wrote:That means I have no control over when I'm authenticated.
sweatshopking wrote:let's not pretend that because they released a white paper saying "it's completely insecure" that suddenly it's secure. just because they agree it's terrible doesn't mean it's not terrible.
End User wrote:sweatshopking wrote:let's not pretend that because they released a white paper saying "it's completely insecure" that suddenly it's secure. just because they agree it's terrible doesn't mean it's not terrible.
How does Face ID compare to Windows Hello facial recognition sensors in Microsoft phones?
derFunkenstein wrote:I can leave it disabled, sure...so then what did I spend $1000 on?
Vhalidictes wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:I can leave it disabled, sure...so then what did I spend $1000 on?
So, there's this phone vendor called OnePlus...
tanker27 wrote:Some people are just happiest when they complain........ >.>
DancinJack wrote:Vhalidictes wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:I can leave it disabled, sure...so then what did I spend $1000 on?
So, there's this phone vendor called OnePlus...
Not really the point, but until OnePlus makes a phone that works on Verizon they can go to hell.
derFunkenstein wrote:I don't know about phones, but my laptop has it and it sucks. Also one of the first things I turned off.
DancinJack wrote:until OnePlus makes a phone that works on Verizon
ludi wrote:DancinJack wrote:until OnePlus makes a phone that works on Verizon
Pretty sure that's going to be "Until Verizon works on OnePlus." They (Verizon) are moving that direction, but somewhere I recently read 2020 or '21 before the legacy hardware is fully retired and all towers are operating pure LTE.
sweatshopking wrote:I think that would depend on the laptop.
DancinJack wrote:I completely understand the issue. My complaint is that plenty of others make phones with radios that work on all major networks in the US. They are choosing not to include support for some odd reason. But hey, plenty of phones to choose from so it's not a huge deal.
ludi wrote:Eh, as someone noted on the front page comments to the 5T summary, these guys have extremely thin margin selling a device this way. A second model solely for the US market (which has been one of the last to go to the BYOD/pay-up-front model) and additional licensing fees to Qualcomm is probably beyond the tipping point.
Don't get me wrong, I would have gladly switched to one of these if they did support Verizon. It's basically what the Nexus used to be, but with an extra shot thrown in for free because the barista was in a good mood.
derFunkenstein wrote:I can leave it disabled, sure...so then what did I spend $1000 on?
ludi wrote:DancinJack wrote:until OnePlus makes a phone that works on Verizon
Pretty sure that's going to be "Until Verizon works on OnePlus." They (Verizon) are moving that direction, but somewhere I recently read 2020 or '21 before the legacy hardware is fully retired and all towers are operating pure LTE.
derFunkenstein wrote:My beef is I want to choose when it's authenticated and when it's not. I feel like the fingerprint authentication system was perfect. I feel like the second-gen touch sensor in the 6S Plus and my wife's 7 Plus (edit: and in my Pixel 2, for that matter) just can't be topped. I touch the sensor when I want to authenticate.
derFunkenstein wrote:I'll stick with my obsolete hardware, thanks.
just brew it! wrote:tanker27 wrote:Some people are just happiest when they complain........ >.>
...and others just have to get the latest shiny new thing as soon as it is released regardless of cost, and will defend their decision to do so to the death.
tanker27 wrote:just brew it! wrote:tanker27 wrote:Some people are just happiest when they complain........ >.>
...and others just have to get the latest shiny new thing as soon as it is released regardless of cost, and will defend their decision to do so to the death.
Uhhhhh Nope....Next please.
I guess you missed my earlier post where I clearly stated I upgraded from a 6+. In fact I sold the aforementioned pristine 6+ for 250 bucks which helped defray the cost of my X. That's called making a wise decision.
sweatshopking wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:I don't know about phones, but my laptop has it and it sucks. Also one of the first things I turned off.
I think that would depend on the laptop. It is more secure than faceid.
Facial recognition sensors
To allow facial recognition, you must have devices with integrated special infrared (IR) sensors and software. Facial recognition sensors use special cameras that see in IR light, letting them tell the difference between a photo and a living person while scanning an employee’s facial features. These sensors, like the fingerprint sensors, must also include anti-spoofing measures (required) and a way to configure them (optional).False Accept Rate (FAR): <0.001
False Reject Rate (FRR) without Anti-spoofing or liveness detection: <5%
Effective, real world FRR with Anti-spoofing or liveness detection: <10%
just brew it! wrote:tanker27 wrote:just brew it! wrote:...and others just have to get the latest shiny new thing as soon as it is released regardless of cost, and will defend their decision to do so to the death.
Uhhhhh Nope....Next please.
I guess you missed my earlier post where I clearly stated I upgraded from a 6+. In fact I sold the aforementioned pristine 6+ for 250 bucks which helped defray the cost of my X. That's called making a wise decision.
That wasn't directed at you.
just brew it! wrote:That wasn't directed at you.
End User wrote:I concur. That was not directed at you.
derFunkenstein wrote:My beef is I want to choose when it's authenticated and when it's not. I feel like the fingerprint authentication system was perfect. I feel like the second-gen touch sensor in the 6S Plus and my wife's 7 Plus (edit: and in my Pixel 2, for that matter) just can't be topped. I touch the sensor when I want to authenticate.
Topinio wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:My beef is I want to choose when it's authenticated and when it's not. I feel like the fingerprint authentication system was perfect. I feel like the second-gen touch sensor in the 6S Plus and my wife's 7 Plus (edit: and in my Pixel 2, for that matter) just can't be topped. I touch the sensor when I want to authenticate.
Yes. FaceID should be the username, TouchID the password. (If we're doing biometrics.)