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Glorious wrote:End User wrote:He does? In 2017? Any proof? He had been using a 2016 Dell XPS13 Developer Edition as far as I knew. Before that he used a Sony Vaio Pro 11.
Linus isn't the head of the Linux Foundation, he's not on the leadership team or even the board.
He's a fellow.
According to the 2015 990, yes, Torvald's the most compensated employee, with the macOS-using executive director Jim Zemlin being the second-most.
And yes, Jim Zemlin (in)famously uses macOS, up to the present day, and has done so unapologetically for years.
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/09/ ... rce-summit
Glorious wrote:EDIT: and yes, the finger was for Nvidia. It's not pedantry, you were implying that Linus would be mad over people using proprietary software. LOLNAW: he used bitkeeper for years until Tridgell tipped his hand. Only then did they make the effort to create git.
He was mad over hardware support. Not the same thing.
Glorious wrote:And, btw, developers on MBPs with native OS is "odd"? lolwut? This planet of yours is not ours, yet again.
just brew it! wrote:End User wrote:Glorious wrote:LOL, why would he care? The head of the Linux Foundation uses MacOS.
He does? In 2017? Any proof? He had been using a 2016 Dell XPS13 Developer Edition as far as I knew. Before that he used a Sony Vaio Pro 11.
Linus is not the head of the Linux Foundation.
just brew it! wrote:End User wrote:Glorious wrote:btw that finger was actually for Nvidia
Why the ? It was explicitly stated that he was giving Nvidia the finger at the time.
End User wrote:Sigh. No. Internally his company does not deem the OS their product is meant to run on secure enough to offer as a primary OS option on work assigned hardware.
Glorious wrote:pronouncing 2017 as "officially the year of the Linux desktop"
End User wrote:Apple has released a security update that resolves the issue. High Sierra users will find the update via the App Store Update tab:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208315
jihadjoe wrote:End User wrote:Apple has released a security update that resolves the issue. High Sierra users will find the update via the App Store Update tab:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208315
Good to see a resolution to this.
It is of interest though, that apparently this critical vulnerability was known of since the 13th, but Apple sat twiddling thumbs about getting a fix out until it went public and blew up. Maybe going public with bugs is the way forward...
Glorious wrote:End User wrote:Sigh. No. Internally his company does not deem the OS their product is meant to run on secure enough to offer as a primary OS option on work assigned hardware.
:sigh:
His product is massive-scale enterprise storage. It's not even relevant to desktop linuxing.
just brew it! wrote:Glorious wrote:End User wrote:Sigh. No. Internally his company does not deem the OS their product is meant to run on secure enough to offer as a primary OS option on work assigned hardware.
:sigh:
His product is massive-scale enterprise storage. It's not even relevant to desktop linuxing.
Yup. Our product does not even have a DE installed. It's effectively a bunch of turnkey servers that just happen to have a stripped down Linux distro at their core.
It's not so much a question of it being "secure enough" (though worrying about that is certainly a piece of the puzzle once you throw arbitrary DEs and applications into the mix) as it being another platform that IT would need to support. Another platform which also needs to work seamlessly with all the other internal IT infrastructure that goes with an enterprise computing environment.
Our product doesn't need to log on to VPNs, access printers on the local network, run e-mail clients, or do 99% of the other stuff you'd typically expect to be able to do on a desktop system.
End User wrote:Where did you get the info regarding the 13th? Apple publicly stated that they found out about the issue yesterday (Nov. 28):
jihadjoe wrote:End User wrote:Where did you get the info regarding the 13th? Apple publicly stated that they found out about the issue yesterday (Nov. 28):
It was being suggested as a way to get into someone's locked Mac in their own forums on Nov the 13th. Was probably known of for far longer than that.
https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/79235#277225
And yes, I'm aware it was a forum post, but the Apple developer forums are very slow moving, just a couple of posts every few days in any given section. If we can keep up with the TR forums surely the biggest company in the world can have a few people reading their own developer forums.
just brew it! wrote:Our product doesn't need to log on to VPNs, access printers on the local network, run e-mail clients, or do 99% of the other stuff you'd typically expect to be able to do on a desktop system.
Waco wrote:just brew it! wrote:Our product doesn't need to log on to VPNs, access printers on the local network, run e-mail clients, or do 99% of the other stuff you'd typically expect to be able to do on a desktop system.
I'll throw my hat in this ring as well - I have a similar job as jbi and my main dev machine is a Mac for all the same reasons.
Waco wrote:I strongly dislike MacOS for many reasons...but I need to be able to run *real* Office applications. At least the terminal works as expected.
DancinJack wrote:Waco wrote:I strongly dislike MacOS for many reasons...but I need to be able to run *real* Office applications. At least the terminal works as expected.
Do you have the option to run W10? The Windows store installations of Ubuntu and the like will get you a bash shell, and you can pretty much install the packages you need for whatever isn't there. Might be an option if you hate macOS that much.
DancinJack wrote:Waco wrote:I strongly dislike MacOS for many reasons...but I need to be able to run *real* Office applications. At least the terminal works as expected.
Do you have the option to run W10? The Windows store installations of Ubuntu and the like will get you a bash shell, and you can pretty much install the packages you need for whatever isn't there. Might be an option if you hate macOS that much.
just brew it! wrote:I find it rather odd that you list the case-insensitive filesystem as a drawback of OS X, when you're recommending a Windows solution...
derFunkenstein wrote:Two things about virtualizing macOS:
1.) It's not licensed on non-Apple hardware
2.) The lack of graphics acceleration kills the utility. I've done it in VMWare Fusion on my Mac Pro and it's awful.
Waco wrote:3. X forwarding must absolutely work for various tasks - I have the feeling Windows doesn't handle that very gracefully, but that's just a gut feeling without any basis in fact. Does that work well/at all?
Glorious wrote:Waco wrote:3. X forwarding must absolutely work for various tasks - I have the feeling Windows doesn't handle that very gracefully, but that's just a gut feeling without any basis in fact. Does that work well/at all?
I did for a period of time with cygwin. I don't recall any major problems, and it was done with both OpenVMS and Linux X clients.
This was native hardware, windows 7, and I'm not even sure how long ago exactly...
DancinJack wrote:I haven't used Cygwin in years though so I can't speak to the state of it.