Personal computing discussed
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SuperSpy wrote:The issue I remember about GeekBench is that (IIRC, it's been a long time since I've read up on it) Geekbench doesn't do a very good job of making comparable scores between platforms, specifically because it uses different code to run on different platforms. That behavior is basically the opposite of the way the SPEC benchmarks (attempt to) work, trying create a valid apples-to-apples comparison.
Derfunkenstein wrote:And I'm sure that just like PPC -> x86, a theoretical x86_64 -> ARM64 transition will have all first party apps recompiled with universal binaries on day 1. Long-winded theorizing short, Apple isn't dumb and they won't transition without having everything perfectly aligned. Just like last time.
derFunkenstein wrote:It just doesn't make sense to have those kinds of arguments until it's possible. Anything else is just wild speculation. If that day comes, you'll get to evaluate it before you buy it.
derFunkenstein wrote:Photoshop on a tablet seems like a decent fit to me, but I'm not an artist and don't have any real-world experience with the Apple Pencil. Maybe Illustrator would have been better. Anything where a Wacom tablet connected to a PC was the best way to go seems like a very natural use case for a tablet, assuming it's really fast enough.
dragontamer5788 wrote:Otherwise, what's wrong about writing a C-program, compiling it for ARM (or x86), and then running the program on both platforms to see how the two chips compare?
dragontamer5788 wrote:So I have to ask: what is fundamentally wrong about a cross-platform benchmark like Geekbench 4, or SPECint ?? I mean, aside from benchmark related issues (like SPECint doesn't really push FPUs or vector-units very hard. But otherwise it seems like a good representation of 64-bit integer-based code). We've definitely got to analyze the benchmarks to ensure that they're reasonable, but the overall methodology doesn't seem flawed to me at all.
dragontamer5788 wrote:But Geekbench4 / SPECint are specified at the C-level. The only things being tested are the OS, the compiler, and the chip.
Glorious wrote:If I'm off-base, can someone name the person who doesn't believe that Apple is building MacOS et al on ARM, or that Apple will never release an ARM-based MacOS product?
If that doesn't happen, can we stop talking about it as an obvious distraction from the things we don't agree about?
SuperSpy wrote:I'm not sure I agree with this logic. It makes sense if you're trying to get an idea what Apple might do in the near future. Especially as it's a logical next step for a company as successful/obsessed at vertical integration as Apple.
Redocbew wrote:I'm moving away from doing as much frontend stuff these days, but I know enough to be dangerous. Performance aside, the questions I have about this are: Are you going to be able to quickly switch between layers? How to do you add or subtract from a selection you've already made? How are you going to access all the various dialog boxes for channels, levels, filters, and so on? There's also all the keystrokes that designers have memorized over the years for doing these things. Tapping and swiping multiple times in various spots on a touchscreen seems like a bad tradeoff compared to that.
derfunk wrote:He's not here right now, but chuckula, right?
End User wrote:A 1TB computer equipped with a 10Gbps Type C port should get native OS external storage support ASAP:
End User wrote:I agree with what both Nilay and Dieter (over at The Verge) are saying about the hardware surpassing the OS:
Glorious wrote:End User wrote:I agree with what both Nilay and Dieter (over at The Verge) are saying about the hardware surpassing the OS:
What does that even mean?
Redocbew wrote:I really don't understand what's so nifty about the idea of a tablet with external storage support.
DancinJack wrote:<dongle-blob>
Redocbew wrote:DancinJack wrote:<dongle-blob>
Yeah, pretty much. The docking station was the only thing I could think of where it might kinda, sort, almost make sense. I still don't really get it though, because you could just get a laptop if you needed the device to ackshually be portable without imposing limitations on its use when you're away from the dock.