Personal computing discussed
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just brew it! wrote:So you're saying that your blast from the past might result in a blast in the present?
just brew it! wrote:So you're saying that your blast from the past might result in a blast in the present?
JustAnEngineer wrote:I've reached the point that I just buy SeaSonic. Prices are pretty reasonable and the peace of mind is worth it.
HERETIC wrote:And it's still hard work convincing people the PSU is the most important part of any build.
DO NOT skimp on PSU......................................................
bthylafh wrote:I still remember the poor schlub at the old computer shop I worked for. He had spent all this money upgrading his Athon machine, which had fancy things like a SCSI card (for the CD burners, yo ho ho) and a decent video card. He kept the crap 250W Deer PS against my recommendations (my boss disagreed with me; I thought he'd definitely need more wattage) and about 5 seconds after he powered up the new kit, foof. Magic smoke emitted and half the stuff on the whole system fried.
Never skimp on your basic infrastructure.
deruberhanyok wrote:Forget an old 810 board, just short it with a paper clip and see what happens. Worst case scenario it blows up but doesn't take anything else with it.
deruberhanyok wrote:Maybe FSP, but I don't remember when they started selling those in the US.
bfg-9000 wrote:Many old power supplies require a minimum load on each voltage to send the power-good signal, which is why PSU testers have resistor banks. Around here the electronics recyclers often have those peltier can-coolers for $1 and usually it's only the power brick is broken or missing. As peltiers are fairly sturdy, are a resistive load and don't much care about voltage spikes or ripple (they just get even less efficient), even a Deer could probably power one (albeit noisily).
bfg-9000 wrote:I notice there are adapters to add 6-pin AUX to power your dual Xeon or Athlon, at least if you're not a retropurist and willing to grossly oversize the PSU in order to get enough 5v capacity. That one-wire P4 12v connector looks sketchy though.
Starfalcon wrote:Man, just saw that ATX adapter, that thing looks sketchy as heck...cant see how that is safe at all.
Glorious wrote:I've been intrigued by the concept of a starfalcon inventory for years.
Count me as very interested.
bfg-9000 wrote:I've held on to my PC Power and Cooling TurboCool 510 XE for my older motherboards; 40A on the 5V and 3.3V rails.JustAnEngineer wrote:I've reached the point that I just buy SeaSonic. Prices are pretty reasonable and the peace of mind is worth it.
Unfortunately, vintage PCs didn't draw heavily from 12v like today's PCs and need hefty 5v and 3.3v rails. Modern power supplies haven't even featured AUX connectors for many years. So the only option is to keep repairing vintage supplies, and you just don't do that with a Deer because you'd have to re-engineer the whole thing.
Even the cheapest vintage Channelwell-made Antecs are still serviceable by replacing the Fuhjyyu caps on the 5v rail. BTW I prefer exploding caps over the OST ones Seasonic uses because at least you can tell which ones are bad without unsoldering them all from the circuit.
Glorious wrote:I've been intrigued by the concept of a starfalcon inventory for years.
Count me as very interested.
bfg-9000 wrote:Unfortunately, vintage PCs didn't draw heavily from 12v like today's PCs and need hefty 5v and 3.3v rails. Modern power supplies haven't even featured AUX connectors for many years. So the only option is to keep repairing vintage supplies....
Starfalcon wrote:Glorious wrote:I've been intrigued by the concept of a starfalcon inventory for years.
Count me as very interested.
Yeah I have some vacation coming up soon, so I may take a few days and try to do an accounting...for great justice...and to know what I actually have. Sadly I just found a huge box full of memory sticks...I did not know I had...prob 150-200 sticks of ram in there....
I may take pictures to keep track of stuff, but don't have anywhere to host them, and there would be a lot....so will prob be a huge list.