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David wrote:Antec Sonata III
Thermaltake Toughpower 750. Semi-Modular.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:whm1974 wrote:Water cooling. Not everyone is going to use water cooling to overclock if they even overclock at all. Why don't the manufacturers offer the same model without the vents on top of the case?
Locations for additional exhaust fans are potentially useful even if you don't watercool. Just don't set your drink up there where it can potentially get dumped into the vents. Perhaps they could provide some panels you can install if you don't intend to install top fans? This would potentially improve airflow a bit when there aren't fans there.
whm1974 wrote:End User wrote:From my 2012 build to my 2107 build I have stopped using 5.25", 3.5", and 2.5" drives. Case size has dropped by a third while fan size has increased to 140mm from 120mm.
So what are you using for storage then? As far as I know M.2 gumsticks didn't come out until 2014.
Starfalcon wrote:End User wrote:From my 2012 build to my 2107 build I have stopped using 5.25", 3.5", and 2.5" drives. Case size has dropped by a third while fan size has increased to 140mm from 120mm.
This reminds me of around 10 years ago when the trend for cell phones was to make them as small as possible. They got to the point where the mic was around the top end of your cheek and didn't work very well. Fortunately that trend died when people realized that using them sucked along with smartphones coming on to the scene. Now it seems everyone is copying apple with all their proprietary systems, just like how computers were back in the 90's. Along with making them as small as possible and removing almost all expandability options. Just like in the 90's when they made systems as slim as possible using crappy riser cards and proprietary parts not easily replaceable. That's what got me building computers back in the 90's, so I could avoid all this mess and make my computer upgradable and able to do what I wanted it to be able to do.
End User wrote:I'm not sure what my post has to do with your paranoia about proprietary systems and tiny cell phones. I'm using a mid-size case that can take up to an EATX motherboard. As I no longer use hard drives in my PC I was able to remove the dual 3.5" bays to improve internal airflow. The 2.5" bays are empty at the moment as my 1TB M.2 NVMe drive is all I need. The bulk of my storage needs are handled by my NAS.
Starfalcon wrote:End User wrote:I'm not sure what my post has to do with your paranoia about proprietary systems and tiny cell phones. I'm using a mid-size case that can take up to an EATX motherboard. As I no longer use hard drives in my PC I was able to remove the dual 3.5" bays to improve internal airflow. The 2.5" bays are empty at the moment as my 1TB M.2 NVMe drive is all I need. The bulk of my storage needs are handled by my NAS.
It wasn't a paranoia, just pointing out how everyone is so eager to get rid of all sorts of bays and old formats nowdays. The way you worded it made it seem that it is great to get rid of all that old stuff, if it wasn't meant that way, then feel free to ignore what I said.
End User wrote:I am eager to get rid of bays and old formats when they no longer serve a purpose.
Captain Ned wrote:End User wrote:I am eager to get rid of bays and old formats when they no longer serve a purpose.
The 3.5" floppy bays in the P182 serve as a perfect place to park SSDs.
whm1974 wrote:Glass windows on cases, why would anyone want something that very easy to break on their hardware? It seems that way too many otherwise real nice cases have this "feature"
whm1974 wrote:
Glass windows on cases, why would anyone want something that very easy to break on their hardware? It seems that way too many otherwise real nice cases have this "feature"
CScottG wrote:whm1974 wrote:
Glass windows on cases, why would anyone want something that very easy to break on their hardware? It seems that way too many otherwise real nice cases have this "feature"
Glass usually isn't that easy to break as long as it's been properly heat-treated. It has a few things going for it vs. acrylic: it doesn't scratch nearly as easily, is often clearer/transparent, feels more "solid" (doesn't "twist"), etc..
Where it is more prone to breaking is hitting an edge hard with something that is also hard, and to reduce this the glass needs to be edge-treated (rounded - in addition to the heat-treatment) and specifically: thicker.
End User wrote:Starfalcon wrote:End User wrote:I'm not sure what my post has to do with your paranoia about proprietary systems and tiny cell phones. I'm using a mid-size case that can take up to an EATX motherboard. As I no longer use hard drives in my PC I was able to remove the dual 3.5" bays to improve internal airflow. The 2.5" bays are empty at the moment as my 1TB M.2 NVMe drive is all I need. The bulk of my storage needs are handled by my NAS.
It wasn't a paranoia, just pointing out how everyone is so eager to get rid of all sorts of bays and old formats nowdays. The way you worded it made it seem that it is great to get rid of all that old stuff, if it wasn't meant that way, then feel free to ignore what I said.
I am eager to get rid of bays and old formats when they no longer serve a purpose.
The Egg wrote:Venkman: Why?Uhh.....it's probably a good idea for Starfalcon and End User to avoid direct interaction.