just brew it! wrote:
I think it is a bit much to expect a decent hinge-style side panel in the $60-and-under segment. Great that the Fractal Design Core 2300/2500 met all of his requirements before, but now that it is going away it may be time to decide what features to compromise on.
An open bench style case is going to be a complete non-starter in an office environment.
Why is that mechanism not on all cases in the 70 and up segment though? I can understand the cheaper market not using it because, you know, cheap. But 70-100 dollar cases are devoid of this feature as well.
But alas, I suppose you are right. **** as it is, it appears that I'm going to have to let go of it. It's stupid, and case designers should take note, but what else can I do?
Flying Fox wrote:
I pick a couple at random and they are not hinge style side panels, which is a thing stated by the OP. It you really need to swap out cards all the time, may as well go with an open bench?
I am seriously doubting the actual business requirements vs the OP's own preferences. I do appreciate that everyone has their thing, so there's that.
The side panel mechanism is more my preference (I'm the one who has to maintain the things), the clients requirements are why we're using ATX etc. It's not required, but I was really hoping that I would find a few options and that I was just missing something. Sadly it seems true, that most side panels use the crappier type. I can live with it, but why not shop for the preferred product?
Oops! I mistook this as a thread seeking an answer to a question.
Cheap, windowless, low-bling, roomy ATX cases with removable dust filters:$54
Antec P7 Silent$55
Apexgaming Hermes 51$60
Apexgaming AK-47$63 -10MIR
Cooler Master NSE-400-KKN2$70
Antec Three Hundred Two$88
be quiet! BG021$90
be quiet! BG022$94
Fractal Design FD-CA-MESH-C-BKO$97
Fractal Design FD-CA-DEF-C-BK$98
Cooler Master RC-902XB-KKN2$106
Without dust filters:$50
Fractal Design FD-CA-ARC-R2-BL-W$79
Some good options here. Very few have the preferred side panels, but most have all the other features I'd be looking for. The P7 seems like an effective and cheap option, and is likely what I'm gonna go with.
Except... hold up. That FD case for 94 bucks. The Meshify C. Is that a hinge I see? I don't see any of the normal holes for the pinch brackets (what are those things called anyway?). This might be worth considering. As the rest of that case is pretty awesome. Maybe I'll replace my Three Hundred Two in my workstation to dog food it and see how it goes.
Flying Fox wrote:
Requirements not set by me, but by the specific client I still build custom machines for. What they are doing doesn't strictly require all of those PCI express slots, but a couple of the requirements the owner of said business has laid out does require more flexibility than a typical compact board would allow. And, well, the client is the one writing the checks, and honestly them wanting it this way doesn't really end up costing them significantly more than any other normal basic office computer I could custom build, so it is what it is. Like I said, hard to explain briefly, but we ended up needing primarily full ATX boards and cases for good reason.
If the client really insists of such customized setup, they should be willing to pay for it. I fail to understand why they (or you) are nickel and diming here. Costs of multiple PCIe x16 video cards easily dwarfs the $100 difference here.
One of the main reasons? Monitors. Lots of them. So lots of video cards.
I am sorry, how many are we actually talking about here to be "lots"? 8? 16? You can easily get away with just 2 cards
. More than 16? The cost of the case will be so minuscule. Then there is also this thing called DisplayPort daisy chaining (granted I have read that not all implementations work, but solutions are out there), which reduces the need for >2 video cards a lot. It does come down to what you mean by "a lot". High end home setups can do 4-6 easily these days.
8+ monitors on a single workstation. That's only... like a quarter of the story. It was just supposed to give you an idea of why we would be completely insane (given the response here it seems like ATX is an outlier standard) and using ATX mobos. And I'm well aware that there are expensive GPU's that can do 8 on a single card, but they are expensive, and the hassle of using ATX and more cards is worth the savings we get from not using those with smaller boards.
We used to use Radeon 7750s for all the GPUs there. I don't think the 810 was out at the time we started that. But we recently swapped to the P600/P620 Quadros and they do quite well and are very cheap for their performance and features (and the drivers don't make me want to stab myself).
Also, I'm completely willing to sell them a slightly more expensive case, within reason. But given that there was a case in that price bracket that did all the things, it's a hard sell to explain that there just isn't anymore. Wouldn't YOU be annoyed if they stopped making something you used regularly and the only product that met all of your preferences and requirements was nearly double the cost? Just about anybody would get annoyed with that.