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For your self-educational perusal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oji-Cree_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages

Captain Ned wrote:

For your self-educational perusal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oji-Cree_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages

Thanks for the references.

It's funny that a word with that origin could look exactly like a word in Japanese, especially one that has such a meaning as ornate mirror. (Assuming I was correct in my dictionary lookup)

Ikepuska wrote:

It's funny that a word with that origin could look exactly like a word in Japanese, especially one that has such a meaning as ornate mirror. (Assuming I was correct in my dictionary lookup)

Whereas I, who spent 7 full summers at YMCA Camp Abnaki (on/off '74 through '85) with a director who was very cognizant of and respectful to the First Nations traditions here in VT (Abenaki is a subset of Algonquian), I immediately knew that to be First Nations language.

Captain Ned wrote:

Ikepuska wrote:

It's funny that a word with that origin could look exactly like a word in Japanese, especially one that has such a meaning as ornate mirror. (Assuming I was correct in my dictionary lookup)

Whereas I, who spent 7 full summers at YMCA Camp Abnaki (on/off '74 through '85) with a director who was very cognizant of and respectful to the First Nations traditions here in VT (Abenaki is a subset of Algonquian), I immediately knew that to be First Nations language.

Well, I guess if the shoe was on the other foot, and the context was mirrors in Japan you might make the reverse mistake? It's an amusing bit of convergent evolution for the hobbyist linguist in me. Especially since the reason Japanese works that way is because of the origins of it's writing system in Sanskrit which obviously had not a thing to do with the origin of the First Nations languages.

You guys are amazing! Word ninjas, the lot of you.

And thank you for all the replies!

BIF wrote:

You guys are amazing! Word ninjas, the lot of you.

And thank you for all the replies!

It's easy. It's a field of honor with no personal downside. Geek duel of pronunciation; film at 11.

Probably my Ozzie accent, but I would "Kay Bee" like "Bay Bee".

BIF wrote:

I asked this question in the Kaby Lake article comments, but nobody has answered it yet.  I've decided that I'd like to learn the answer before the product lifecycle expires.  

Can anybody tell me how the "a" sound in "Kaby" is supposed to be pronounced?

1. Does it rhyme with "baby"?
2. Does it rhyme with "hobby"
3. Or does it rhyme with "cabbie" or "crabby"?

This is a serious question; I'm genuinely curious and it gives me a headache anytime I can't pronounce a word or name in my head whenever I read about it in print. Thanks.

I'm going with 3.

I'm just going to keep pronouncing it like baby.

Henceforth, "Kaby Lake" shall be pronounced as "Krogoth Lake".
http://techreport.com/news/31190/intel- ... st=1015159

Oh wow, what a brilliant post, I somehow missed it yesterday. Epic stuff.

I'm actually planning on building a 7700K rig (with DDR4 3866 RAM) to finally replace my 2600K. I will name it Krogoth.

I grew up on the Lake and have guided on it for over 50 years. Kabinakagami Lake is pronounced KAY BIN NAW KOG GAM ME (GAM is like am). We have a Fly In Fishing Lodge on this lake.
Richard Watson Windy Point Lodge

it should be pronounced like baby. Intel pronounces it like someone with nasal problems. Let's just agree to call it very fast. just fix the tim, that's ridiculous. delidding is the most insane thing and I've soldered expensive electronics.

StefanJanoski wrote:

I've never heard anyone from the UK say aluminum, as far as I'm concerned that one is a very clear American English / British English divide. Aluminium is the British word, aluminum is the American word.

I enjoyed learning differences between American and British terms. Some were frustrating like spelling US Dept of Defense vs UK Ministry of "Defence" but other meanings were fun to compare.
For example, when I was active duty USAF stationed in England I liked to argue with my co-worker who was an MoD employee who referred to the flashlight as a torch. I said "No! This is a flashlight, not a torch. Do you see a flipping flame!?! Oh, and they always got a giggle when we mentioned "fanny" packs which has a completely arse-backwards meaning in the UK.

so it just makes you sound like an ass if you pronounce it "kahbay"?

G8torbyte wrote:

StefanJanoski wrote:

I've never heard anyone from the UK say aluminum, as far as I'm concerned that one is a very clear American English / British English divide. Aluminium is the British word, aluminum is the American word.

I enjoyed learning differences between American and British terms. Some were frustrating like spelling US Dept of Defense vs UK Ministry of "Defence" but other meanings were fun to compare.
For example, when I was active duty USAF stationed in England I liked to argue with my co-worker who was an MoD employee who referred to the flashlight as a torch. I said "No! This flashlight, not a torch. Do you see a flipping flame!?! Oh, and they always got a giggle when we mentioned "fanny" packs which has a completely arse-backwards meaning in the UK.

Yeah, we don't have a separate word for what you call torches as opposed to what you call flashlights.

But I don't think anyone's really used them in hundreds of years, so it doesn't seem to be an issue

StefanJanoski wrote:

Yeah, we don't have a separate word for what you call torches as opposed to what you call flashlights.

But I don't think anyone's really used them in hundreds of years, so it doesn't seem to be an issue

I guess someone forgot to tell Amazon that they're hundreds of years behind the times...

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tiki+torch

just brew it! wrote:

StefanJanoski wrote:

Yeah, we don't have a separate word for what you call torches as opposed to what you call flashlights.

But I don't think anyone's really used them in hundreds of years, so it doesn't seem to be an issue

I guess someone forgot to tell Amazon that they're hundreds of years behind the times...

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tiki+torch

Okay, okay, fair point

I'm not even sure what we'd call those here. Most of the results seem to be for things you'd stick in the soil in your garden or something - maybe 'garden torches'?

StefanJanoski wrote:

just brew it! wrote:

I guess someone forgot to tell Amazon that they're hundreds of years behind the times...

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tiki+torch

Okay, okay, fair point

I'm not even sure what we'd call those here. Most of the results seem to be for things you'd stick in the soil in your garden or something - maybe 'garden torches'?

Some people call them that here too.

On a related note, what would you call these: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?rh ... blow+torch

just brew it! wrote:

StefanJanoski wrote:

just brew it! wrote:

I guess someone forgot to tell Amazon that they're hundreds of years behind the times...

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tiki+torch

Okay, okay, fair point

I'm not even sure what we'd call those here. Most of the results seem to be for things you'd stick in the soil in your garden or something - maybe 'garden torches'?

Some people call them that here too.

On a related note, what would you call these: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?rh ... blow+torch

Only ever heard it called a blowtorch. Wikipedia mentions blowlamp as being a British term, but I've never heard it used myself.

StefanJanoski wrote:

Only ever heard it called a blowtorch. Wikipedia mentions blowlamp as being a British term, but I've never heard it used myself.

The pocket size ones I'd call a "bum-burner" Well we took this thread on an odd tangent tickety-boo.

the ka is like kay adams in godfather films
by is like bee.

kaybee.

I just pronounce it like... hmm... keh-bee lake. There's probably a better way to pronounce it.

Though sometimes I'm tempted to change it into Kirby Lake.

Darthutos wrote:

kaybee.

Exactly! Like the toy store!

Noinoi wrote:

I just pronounce it like... hmm... keh-bee lake. There's probably a better way to pronounce it.

Though sometimes I'm tempted to change it into Kirby Lake.

I suggest that henceforth we resolve to refer to "Kaby Lake" simply as "Bruce"! This falls neatly in line with the long standing traditions of Monty Python, as evidenced herein:
https://youtu.be/eyVX3uJpqxc

(Or as an alternative, I suppose we could call it "Monkey's Bum".)

Noinoi wrote:

I just pronounce it like... hmm... keh-bee lake. There's probably a better way to pronounce it.

Though sometimes I'm tempted to change it into Kirby Lake.

I like that. Kirby lake. I love that little sentient car. Kirby lake can be intel's answer to amd's walter. lol nvm.

Captain Ned wrote:

For your self-educational perusal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oji-Cree_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages

this made me realize I don't know enough about my native American ancestry. or my ancestry is general..

Bumper wrote:

I like that. Kirby lake. I love that little sentient car. Kirby lake can be intel's answer to amd's walter. lol nvm.

When I hear "Kirby" I think "over-priced vacuum cleaners".

just brew it! wrote:

When I hear "Kirby" I think "over-priced vacuum cleaners".[/quote]

I was thinking of herbie the car. Somehow i confused it with kirby.
I just googled those vacuums. $3500 for a vacuum... must suck to be a vacuum enthusiast.

just brew it! wrote:

Bumper wrote:

I like that. Kirby lake. I love that little sentient car. Kirby lake can be intel's answer to amd's walter. lol nvm.

When I hear "Kirby" I think "over-priced vacuum cleaners".

Speaking of Kirby and vacuum cleaners, the first thing that came into my mind is a pink puffball that happens to... well, vacuum cleaner mouth, anyone?

Still, though, Kaby Lake is a fun name.