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Captain Ned wrote:The i3-7300 has 1MB more (L2/L3??) cache and supports VT-d. If you're running VMs and want to pass native I/O through the hypervisor, take the 7300. Not sure the exact effect of the extra cache, but more cache is always better. For $50, I'd take the 7300 on general principles.
whm1974 wrote:For VT-d alone, I would get the i3-7300 for myself for a cheap gaming box. But what about for general non-tech user?
Captain Ned wrote:whm1974 wrote:For VT-d alone, I would get the i3-7300 for myself for a cheap gaming box. But what about for general non-tech user?
Take the cache and the clock speed. That alone is about another year of "future-proofing". After all, we're talking about at most a $50 price delta. The G4620 will probably OC better, but that's not anything that a "beige box" user needs.
whm1974 wrote:For VT-d alone, I would get the i3-7300 for myself for a cheap gaming box. But what about for general non-tech user?
DancinJack wrote:whm1974 wrote:For VT-d alone, I would get the i3-7300 for myself for a cheap gaming box. But what about for general non-tech user?
That doesn't make any sense. I don't think a "cheap gaming box" is going to include running Windows in a VM, and if it does, it shouldn't. That just doesn't make any sense.
whm1974 wrote:Not for someone who going to use VMs awful lot. But for a user who just want to check out Linux distros from time to time, well maybe?
DancinJack wrote:Why would you need VT-d for "checking out Linux distros from time to time?"
Captain Ned wrote:DancinJack wrote:Why would you need VT-d for "checking out Linux distros from time to time?"
whm1974 might, as that's his thing. Joe Beige Box doesn't know and doesn't care, but the extra cache and clock is something he will directly notice.
Captain Ned wrote:DancinJack wrote:Why would you need VT-d for "checking out Linux distros from time to time?"
whm1974 might, as that's his thing. Joe Beige Box doesn't know and doesn't care, but the extra cache and clock is something he will directly notice.
DancinJack wrote:He wouldn't though! You don't need VT-d for "trying out Linux distros" from time to time and chances are you would never even notice the CPU has it if that's what you were doing.
whm1974 wrote:DancinJack wrote:whm1974 wrote:For VT-d alone, I would get the i3-7300 for myself for a cheap gaming box. But what about for general non-tech user?
That doesn't make any sense. I don't think a "cheap gaming box" is going to include running Windows in a VM, and if it does, it shouldn't. That just doesn't make any sense.
Not for someone who going to use VMs awful lot. But for a user who just want to check out Linux distros from time to time, well maybe?
Kretschmer wrote:whm1974 wrote:DancinJack wrote:
That doesn't make any sense. I don't think a "cheap gaming box" is going to include running Windows in a VM, and if it does, it shouldn't. That just doesn't make any sense.
Not for someone who going to use VMs awful lot. But for a user who just want to check out Linux distros from time to time, well maybe?
To be fair, he said "for myself." Because VM usage is a .0001% activity for a home PC.
whm1974 wrote:Well I do other things with my system besides playing games as well. Speaking of which, I should get off my rear and learn how to use Gimp, LibreOffice, and what not.
The Egg wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well I do other things with my system besides playing games as well. Speaking of which, I should get off my rear and learn how to use Gimp, LibreOffice, and what not.
Learn how to use? If you haven't used them by now, I don't know that you have a need.
just brew it! wrote:The Egg wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well I do other things with my system besides playing games as well. Speaking of which, I should get off my rear and learn how to use Gimp, LibreOffice, and what not.
Learn how to use? If you haven't used them by now, I don't know that you have a need.
Does seem rather odd for someone who has been so vocal about Linux and Open Source...
Aether wrote:I am willing to spend more for a Core i3 to get the AES-NI support, VT-x support, greater cache, etc.
Aether wrote:I am willing to spend more for a Core i3 to get the AES-NI support, VT-x support, greater cache, etc.
Captain Ned wrote:Aether wrote:I am willing to spend more for a Core i3 to get the AES-NI support, VT-x support, greater cache, etc.
Bring both up on ark.intel.com and the only differences are clock speed (300 MHz), cache (1MB), and VT-d support.
whm1974 wrote:I really wish that Intel(and everyone else) would quit this product segmentation where it doesn't make any sense.