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Welch wrote:Out of curiosity did you OC your 2500k? Since it is a K I'd sort of imagine you at least attempted a slight OC, or were you running stock?
It was so easy to OC my 2500K to 4.3 from 3.3 that I actually forgot that I OC'ed it about a year+ ago, on stock cooling with no voltage increase. I only ask to get perspective on your 2500k to 7700k upgrade.
Mikael33 wrote:unless you like to run memory bandwidth benchmarks all day long.
drfish wrote:Here are some additional results:
i7-7700K @ 4.8 w/ DDR4-3733 - 56.5
i7-7700K @ 4.8 w/ DDR4-3200 - 49.6
i7-7700K @ 4.5 w/ DDR4-3200 - 48.8
i7-7700K @ 4.2 w/ DDR4-3733 - 48.1
i7-7700K @ 4.8 w/ DDR4-2400 - 46.4
i7-7700K @ 4.2 w/ DDR4-3200 - 45.5
i7-7700K @ 4.5 w/ DDR4-2400 - 43.9
i7-7700K @ 4.2 w/ DDR4-2400 - 40.2
i7-2600K @ 4.2 w/ DDR3-2133 - 31.0
xDoritox wrote:I think R7 1700 is a much better deal, it's both cheaper and future proof. In applications with HTT/SMT support, the 8-core R7 1700 blitzes i7 7700K completely. i7 7700K has 30% higher clock speeds, but I think core-count and more threads make the 1700 a much better deal. Also, you can overclock the R7 1700 to 4Ghz, which is still shy from the 5GHz i7 7700K but it's absolutely great for an 8-core monster.
xDoritox wrote:I think R7 1700 is a much better deal, it's both cheaper and future proof. In applications with HTT/SMT support, the 8-core R7 1700 blitzes i7 7700K completely. i7 7700K has 30% higher clock speeds, but I think core-count and more threads make the 1700 a much better deal. Also, you can overclock the R7 1700 to 4Ghz, which is still shy from the 5GHz i7 7700K but it's absolutely great for an 8-core monster.
Kretschmer wrote:Just upgraded from a 3570K to 7700K and it...swept away some significant game bottlenecks.
Airmantharp wrote:xDoritox wrote:I think R7 1700 is a much better deal, it's both cheaper and future proof. In applications with HTT/SMT support, the 8-core R7 1700 blitzes i7 7700K completely. i7 7700K has 30% higher clock speeds, but I think core-count and more threads make the 1700 a much better deal. Also, you can overclock the R7 1700 to 4Ghz, which is still shy from the 5GHz i7 7700K but it's absolutely great for an 8-core monster.
This is mostly true if your target framerate is around 60FPS; if it's more, the 7700K is where it's at simply because no AMD product (nor higher core-count Intel product) can get there.
Sputnik7 wrote:Dell S2716DG monitor
Airmantharp wrote:It could be memory performance, but I'm mostly convinced that the lack of HT is just as big of a deal when it comes to 'feel'. This is something that you'd only be able to really quantify with frame-time analysis, and even that is difficult because many of your most demanding games are multiplayer.
ColeLT1 wrote:Sputnik7 wrote:Dell S2716DG monitor
I have the same monitor with a 1070, I actually like it better than the Acer XB270HU and very happy with my purchase.
Waco wrote:This is very similar to my experience going from a 2600K @ 4.6GHz to my current 5775C at stock clocks. The memory is exactly the same between the two and both were with a GTX 1070. I know the 5775C is a bit of a unicorn but the difference in performance was much bigger than I anticipated.Airmantharp wrote:It could be memory performance, but I'm mostly convinced that the lack of HT is just as big of a deal when it comes to 'feel'. This is something that you'd only be able to really quantify with frame-time analysis, and even that is difficult because many of your most demanding games are multiplayer.
I went from a 2700K at mid-4 GHz to a stock 6700K and had a similar experience (massive boost in "smoothness", even in lightweight games). DDR3-2400 on the former, DDR4-2400 on the latter, so no real difference in memory bandwidth.
I still can't explain it.
Firestarter wrote:Mikael33 wrote:unless you like to run memory bandwidth benchmarks all day long.
or you play Arma 3
http://techreport.com/discussion/31410/ ... 02#1021702drfish wrote:Here are some additional results:
i7-7700K @ 4.8 w/ DDR4-3733 - 56.5
i7-7700K @ 4.8 w/ DDR4-3200 - 49.6
i7-7700K @ 4.5 w/ DDR4-3200 - 48.8
i7-7700K @ 4.2 w/ DDR4-3733 - 48.1
i7-7700K @ 4.8 w/ DDR4-2400 - 46.4
i7-7700K @ 4.2 w/ DDR4-3200 - 45.5
i7-7700K @ 4.5 w/ DDR4-2400 - 43.9
i7-7700K @ 4.2 w/ DDR4-2400 - 40.2
i7-2600K @ 4.2 w/ DDR3-2133 - 31.0
Kretschmer wrote:This is mostly true if your target framerate is around 60FPS
I find a lot of people justifying Ryzen on "future multithreading," just like Bulldozer.
Redocbew wrote:The "future multithreading" thing is just another way of future proofing a machine. Maybe it works out the way you hope it will, maybe not. Maybe it takes 7 to 10 years for the things you were anticipating to become commonplace, and by then you need another new machine anyway.
tpe2012 wrote:Anybody delid their 7700k? I just got the Rockit 88 and will delid soon. With good cooling, the 7700k at stock runs hot.
In gaming, 78C, with 24C room. Too hot.
Rza79 wrote:Still waiting to hear if OP OC'd though.Welch wrote:It's written in the first line of his post, 6th word.Out of curiosity did you OC your 2500k? Since it is a K I'd sort of imagine you at least attempted a slight OC, or were you running stock?
It was so easy to OC my 2500K to 4.3 from 3.3 that I actually forgot that I OC'ed it about a year+ ago, on stock cooling with no voltage increase. I only ask to get perspective on your 2500k to 7700k upgrade.