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Topinio wrote:Assuming longevity is desirable and they have no local tech support, I'd prioritise:
- 5Y warranty, possibly with on-site repair depending on cost ...
blahsaysblah wrote:if you can get a G4560, its a real i3
DPete27 wrote:blahsaysblah wrote:if you can get a G4560, its a real i3
Yeah, there's no point in getting a desktop i3 anymore when the G4560 is half the price and basically equivalent to the i3-6100. That choice may be harder to accomplish on OEM builds though. That said, I think that's all your parents need.
Putting an SSD into an OEM machine is no big deal. The Windows10 key is tied to the hardware, so you only have to download the Win10 image from Microsoft (if you want a clean copy instead of the bloatware that Dell/HP/Lenovo includes) and go through the normal formatting steps. If the machine has already synced itself to MS servers on the pre-formatted hdd, then when you format the SSD it shouldn't even prompt you for a product key. If it does, just skip it and it should activate once you're booted into Windows. Definitely go that route if budget allows.
DPete27 wrote:Professional support. Ha. I suppose that's great if you have a problem in the first year. After that, they'll charge you.
DPete27 wrote:It is nice to not have the blame on you when something goes wrong though. Although that may happen anyway if you plan on swapping in an SSD. Either way, you're their offspring, so you're probably going to be tech support either way you slice it.
Topinio wrote:I think of it as a buffer and a safety net, particularly for machines for siblings, in-laws, and cousins' machines: they can go to Dell (or whomever) first
gbcrush wrote:Damn...lots of good suggestions.
I priced out a NUC, SODIMMs SSD and Win 10 home and a 1TB SSD....I have to say the price is attractive. That does leave them without professional support though. Hmmm...weighing options.
...and of course, if I go down that road, I might as well just build them a pc from scratch, which goes back to the earlier comment of been there, done that.
Takeshi7 wrote:Given the use case, I'd just get an Atom or Core-M based machine. You can get them for cheap, and lots of them have no moving parts to go wrong.
Something like this ECS Liva Core:
ve gone ahead and purchased an XPS desktop from dell. It includes an m.2 SSD and a 1TBHD. Getting that decision pretty much locked me into an i5-7400 which I'm sure will last a good long while. Wife was able to score Office Pro for super cheap, so the money I would have put into that goes to buy extra support.
gbcrush wrote:Topinio wrote:Assuming longevity is desirable and they have no local tech support, I'd prioritise:
- 5Y warranty, possibly with on-site repair depending on cost ...
Keep it coming gerbils! I'm glad to be hearing the suggestions and the questions! The problem with building your own PCs for years and years and years is that it's easy to lose sight of the average consumer experience.
Torpino As far as support is concerned, they're going to be moving 35 minutes away or so. Actually they're trying to sell their house now...so that might happen in a few months...or in a year if the market doesn't bite. I figure that means I'll probably be on call more than I'd like...but also, I'd like for them to have the option of getting professional support so that they dont have to call me. especially if I'm traveling or something
JBI: I haven't tried to fit an SSD into a dell machine and see if I can reinstall windows/maintain their support. I think I might call their line and see if I can find the answer. ...but yeah, I looked at their configurator and I can actually get a system with an SSD + HDD and still be in the budget, especially if I drop getting office software. The wife is looking at getting a massive discount on office through work. This may work out better than expected...thanks for pushing in this direction.
ChicagoDave wrote:His Dad spends hours in Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom...you guys are crazy recommending an i3 (or core-M!) given that info.
gbcrush wrote:He isn't creating any weird photo manipulations, mind you, just minor touch-ups and level balancing the tons of photos he likes to take.
just brew it! wrote:ChicagoDave wrote:His Dad spends hours in Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom...you guys are crazy recommending an i3 (or core-M!) given that info.
You left out the other part, though:gbcrush wrote:He isn't creating any weird photo manipulations, mind you, just minor touch-ups and level balancing the tons of photos he likes to take.
You don't need a fancy-pants CPU (or even a particularly modern one) for that. Performance is going to be limited by the speed of his mousing hand.
gbcrush wrote:I've gone ahead and purchased an XPS desktop from dell. It includes an m.2 SSD and a 1TBHD. Getting that decision pretty much locked me into an i5-7400