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whm1974 wrote:especially the 2200G at $100. This would a be nice upgrade for my dad with his Haswell Pentium I built for him back in 2014 once Linux support is out.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:especially the 2200G at $100. This would a be nice upgrade for my dad with his Haswell Pentium I built for him back in 2014 once Linux support is out.
If his primary use case is web surfing and other mostly light duty stuff, and the current system is stable, there's probably no need... if it ain't broke, and all that. If his boot drive is still spinning rust, an SSD would likely be a bigger performance boost than a CPU upgrade.
My wife got hit by Microsoft's Meltdown/Spectre patch glitch because she's still running an Athlon 64 X2. With an SSD boot drive it's still plenty fast enough for light duty tasks and casual gaming.
whm1974 wrote:Sorry to hear that your wife got hit by that Meltdown/Spectre patch glitch, how much performance did she lose?
just brew it! wrote:Booting in repair mode and rolling back to a restore point seemed to take care of it. And I believe MS has now blacklisted K8 for the patch until they get things sorted.
whm1974 wrote:just brew it! wrote:Booting in repair mode and rolling back to a restore point seemed to take care of it. And I believe MS has now blacklisted K8 for the patch until they get things sorted.
At least you had a have a restore point to roll back to.
just brew it! wrote:I really need to see what CPUs her mobo is compatible with. Pretty sure I can find something K10-based in the stash that I could drop in there to at least get her onto something produced in the past decade. It's got DDR2 RAM in it so at least it's Socket AM2 (not 939).
Waco wrote:just brew it! wrote:I really need to see what CPUs her mobo is compatible with. Pretty sure I can find something K10-based in the stash that I could drop in there to at least get her onto something produced in the past decade. It's got DDR2 RAM in it so at least it's Socket AM2 (not 939).
I have a Phenom II X4 940 (AM2 based, not AM2+, so DDR2 mem controller only) laying around if you're in need.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Sorry to hear that your wife got hit by that Meltdown/Spectre patch glitch, how much performance did she lose?
Not the performance issue. The BSOD on boot issue. MS's patch is apparently incompatible with anything K8-based. Hoses the system.
Really helpful info on the BSOD screen, too:
"Something Happened", more or less.
Waco wrote:The Ryzen 5 2400G is very likely going to be in my next HTPC build - very light gaming (indie games) and a bit of encoding occasionally.
whm1974 wrote:Waco wrote:The Ryzen 5 2400G is very likely going to be in my next HTPC build - very light gaming (indie games) and a bit of encoding occasionally.
So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
whm1974 wrote:Well the good news for Linux users is that the new Ryzen APUs will be supported by Kernel 4.15.
whm1974 wrote:Waco wrote:The Ryzen 5 2400G is very likely going to be in my next HTPC build - very light gaming (indie games) and a bit of encoding occasionally.
So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
Concupiscence wrote:whm1974 wrote:Waco wrote:The Ryzen 5 2400G is very likely going to be in my next HTPC build - very light gaming (indie games) and a bit of encoding occasionally.
So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
A 2200G would be an amazing upgrade over the Athlon 5050e + Geforce GT 610 churning away in my mother in law's system. If memory prices go down later this year, I won't hesitate.
whm1974 wrote:Waco wrote:The Ryzen 5 2400G is very likely going to be in my next HTPC build - very light gaming (indie games) and a bit of encoding occasionally.
So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
turtlepwr281 wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well the good news for Linux users is that the new Ryzen APUs will be supported by Kernel 4.15.
What's the deal with AMD on linux these days? Open source or proprietary driver on vega?
whm1974 wrote:So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
layerup wrote:whm1974 wrote:So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
My only concern is carrying over some "old" DDR4 into this build. I seem to remember Ryzen cpus being rather picky with the ram you drop into them.
Concupiscence wrote:layerup wrote:whm1974 wrote:So is anyone else planning on doing a Ryzen APU build?
My only concern is carrying over some "old" DDR4 into this build. I seem to remember Ryzen cpus being rather picky with the ram you drop into them.
It depends on the speed and manufacturer. The 2x8 GeiL DDR4-2400 scavenged from the i5 6600K I previously had fired up at 2133 MHz on my Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3, and I manually nudged it to 2400 with zero issues. Check what you’ve got online for compatibility with Ryzen first. It probably won’t take much to make it work.
whm1974 wrote:OK I spec together a build for under $500 and the 1200 is just a placeholder for the 2200G.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGcGm8
frumper15 wrote:whm1974 wrote:OK I spec together a build for under $500 and the 1200 is just a placeholder for the 2200G.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGcGm8
I know almost nothing about compatibility but I'm guessing these are going to be AM4 socket processors. With that being said, I think you would be well served by using Dual channel memory to get the best performance from integrated graphics. With the mobo you selected you're either going to fill both slots from the start or might I suggest this one for a few dollars more: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6813157768
Here's 8GB of dual channel ram to go with it (maybe a little slower than you specced) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820232608
If you needed savings I would say you could potentially go smaller on the SSD or cheaper on the case or wait for a decent PSU on rebate (I've gotten a few EVGA and corsair units less than $20 recently). https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ft7sbj
whm1974 wrote:Concupiscence wrote:layerup wrote:My only concern is carrying over some "old" DDR4 into this build. I seem to remember Ryzen cpus being rather picky with the ram you drop into them.
It depends on the speed and manufacturer. The 2x8 GeiL DDR4-2400 scavenged from the i5 6600K I previously had fired up at 2133 MHz on my Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3, and I manually nudged it to 2400 with zero issues. Check what you’ve got online for compatibility with Ryzen first. It probably won’t take much to make it work.
I thought that this issue has been fixed with BIOS updates?
Waco wrote:The Ryzen 5 2400G is very likely going to be in my next HTPC build - very light gaming (indie games) and a bit of encoding occasionally.
just brew it! wrote:frumper15 wrote:whm1974 wrote:OK I spec together a build for under $500 and the 1200 is just a placeholder for the 2200G.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGcGm8
I know almost nothing about compatibility but I'm guessing these are going to be AM4 socket processors. With that being said, I think you would be well served by using Dual channel memory to get the best performance from integrated graphics. With the mobo you selected you're either going to fill both slots from the start or might I suggest this one for a few dollars more: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6813157768
Here's 8GB of dual channel ram to go with it (maybe a little slower than you specced) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820232608
If you needed savings I would say you could potentially go smaller on the SSD or cheaper on the case or wait for a decent PSU on rebate (I've gotten a few EVGA and corsair units less than $20 recently). https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ft7sbj
Yeah, you definitely want to go with dual-channel RAM, especially if you're using the IGP.
@whm, would this build be for you or someone else? If it is intended to replace an existing PC, I'd seriously think about whether it actually represents a meaningful step up for the intended use case before committing to the build.