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whm1974 wrote:A basic PC
whm1974 wrote:Well this would be for my dad or someone with similar use cases. A basic PC.
whm1974 wrote:Good point, but I though a quad core would be a step up from his dual core Haswell Pentium.
Airmantharp wrote:Only real complaint about these that I see, if there is a legitimate one, is that they are limited to quad-core Ryzen CPUs-
If AMD had been willing to tack Radeon graphics, even an extremely cut-down version, on to their six- and eight-core R7s, they'd likely get more (lower-end) workstation interest. And with an eight-core R7, they'd have something that Intel doesn't, an octo-core CPU with an IGP!
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Good point, but I though a quad core would be a step up from his dual core Haswell Pentium.
Sure, it would. But is he really CPU limited now? Does he run anything that would really take advantage of more than 2 cores?
If even a Brisbane dual-core K8 can still power a semi-reasonable "basic PC", that Haswell should still have a few good years left in it.
whm1974 wrote:Well I see if I can talk him into getting a SSD then. A 120/128 SSD should be fine for Linux right? he already has 8GB of memory and a 1TB HDD.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well I see if I can talk him into getting a SSD then. A 120/128 SSD should be fine for Linux right? he already has 8GB of memory and a 1TB HDD.
As long as he doesn't have much data. Something in the ~250 range is probably a safer bet.
DrDominodog51 wrote:just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well I see if I can talk him into getting a SSD then. A 120/128 SSD should be fine for Linux right? he already has 8GB of memory and a 1TB HDD.
As long as he doesn't have much data. Something in the ~250 range is probably a safer bet.
Or keeping /home on the HDD and putting everything else on the SSD would work.
deruberhanyok wrote:Doesn't that just negate the advantage of having an SSD in the first place? All of the regularly accessed user files are still sitting on a slow disk.
The OS might boot faster but if the complaint is that the system is slow, either it will still be "too slow" trying to open files or there aren't enough files to make it worth keeping the HDD in the first place?
deruberhanyok wrote:Hmm. I've used spinning disks as a user-specific subdirectory before (don't have a multi-user setup), for instance I'd have a system with a 256GB SSD and then put my Steam library on a spinning disk, but I've never tried the whole /home directory on spinning media. I'll have to give it a shot on my next build - I bought one of those 2TB SSHDs for my PS4 and have been happy with the performance, so maybe a small SSD / large cheap SSHD would make for a nice middle ground in cost/performance.
whm1974 wrote:Well for someone like my dad, a ~512GB SSD will be fine for him. And it would be a big improvement over the 1TB HDD he is using now.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well for someone like my dad, a ~512GB SSD will be fine for him. And it would be a big improvement over the 1TB HDD he is using now.
Right. But I've got roughly 2TB in /home right now, and don't feel like paying for 2+ TB of SSD!
JustAnEngineer wrote:
whm1974 wrote:just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well for someone like my dad, a ~512GB SSD will be fine for him. And it would be a big improvement over the 1TB HDD he is using now.
Right. But I've got roughly 2TB in /home right now, and don't feel like paying for 2+ TB of SSD!
So what? Just use an SSD for OS and applications and the HDD for /home.
JustAnEngineer wrote:https://techreport.com/review/33235/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-and-ryzen-5-2400g-processors-reviewed
Now choose:
Thing 1:
$169 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 4-core/8-thread CPU with Vega 11 graphics
or $99 AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 4-core/4-thread CPU with Vega 8 graphics
$87-20MIR MSI B350 Tomohawk Plus ATX motherboard
or $96 MSI B350M Mortar micro-ATX motherboard
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$256 -20MIR
Thing 2:
$90 GeForce GT 1030 2GB
$85 Intel Pentium G4600 2-core/4-thread CPU with Intel 630 graphics
$118 Gigabyte Z370P D3 ATX motherboard
or $137 MSI Z370M Mortar micro-ATX motherboard
========
$293
Note that TR tested all of their discrete GPUs using a $376 Intel Core i7-8700K processor, pushing the cost of GeForce GT 1030 + CPU + heatsink/fan + motherboard to over $600.
whm1974 wrote:So the 2400G was sold out at Newegg and Amazon Yesterday, funny as I was thinking that the 2200G would be out of stock first. Either a lot of folks are building SFF PCs or this is due to the high GPU prices. Or that there a lot more gamers using iGPUs then I believed.
DancinJack wrote:whm1974 wrote:So the 2400G was sold out at Newegg and Amazon Yesterday, funny as I was thinking that the 2200G would be out of stock first. Either a lot of folks are building SFF PCs or this is due to the high GPU prices. Or that there a lot more gamers using iGPUs then I believed.
Both are in stock at Newegg.
whm1974 wrote:Well for this of us who would like to run Linux on these APUs, it looks like you will have jump through a few hoops first. Either that or wait a few months first.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... ga11&num=1
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Well for this of us who would like to run Linux on these APUs, it looks like you will have jump through a few hoops first. Either that or wait a few months first.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... ga11&num=1
Not at all surprising. In fact, I would've been very surprised if existing releases worked with it out-of-box.
just brew it! wrote:Not at all surprising. In fact, I would've been very surprised if existing releases worked with it out-of-box.
