just brew it! wrote:JustAnEngineer wrote:If I were cynical, I'd suggest that AMD could be clearing room for a new Zen+ processor model to appear at the more expensive price point.
Not sure that would even be cynical. I'd call it a reasonable guess. It would also be a reasonable guess that they are just trying to grab more market share.
It's reasonable either way, although I think the truth is in the middle.
They are likely clearing stock now that the likes of Coffee Lake are to market. They will probably release the 1800x replacement (1850x?) at a cheaper price than the 1800x originally released at. So I'd suspect it will be somewhere in the realm of $399 on release, while the 1800x inventory will dwindle down until they fire sale the last few of them at around $300. This is fairly normal and we pretty much see this same exact thing happen every refresh cycle with CPU and GPUs. I don't feel like they can sustain or gain market share if they price the "1850x" at or near that $499 MSRP that the 1800x had on release. So few people bought into it because it was just so well undercut by the 1700. We also have to remember that on release the issues with memory had people concerned so they weren't dropping top dollar and of course CPU coolers that truly supported AM4 properly were in short supply. There were so many coolers than claimed AM4 comparability but didn't include the bracket, or required you to ask them to send you one. All of that is behind us.
Curious if they will seek to take the "1750x" and somehow take away it's allure to push the higher end Ryzen 7+ chips. The 1700 was pretty disruptive to the Ryzen 5 lineup because it's pricing and overclock ability.
On a completely different note, back to the i7-8700k.... WTF gives with the mid 90*C during gaming/testing!!? I know we went down this road in another thread. I just can't believe that with all of the talks about better coolers, lapping, higher end thermal paste, ect... that everyone just seems to want to give Intel a complete pass on these sort of temps. AMD had some terribly hot products in the past and people ripped them a new one. It seems very much like a double standard. For my lack of understanding for the architecture at play here, am I crazy and feeling like Intel simply pushed the limits of their existing chips and are running them near a ceiling as a feather in their hat? I don't know what to make of it. With the illustration of the gap between the IHS and all, is this lazy engineering or was this their only option?
CScottG wrote:
Ahhhh ha! I guess I wasn't going crazy. Still, way too tired last night. No worries, got 10 cups of coffee going today
