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Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:00 pm

That's right suckas. You thought you'd wait for Zen 2? Why do that when you can skip ahead to Zen 5!

Already under development right now, thank you Jim Keller!

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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:08 pm

Should've just gone straight to 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc

Edit: Also, I thought Keller left AMD again, to go work at Tesla?
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:12 pm

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Edit: Also, I thought Keller left AMD again, to go work at Tesla?


Oh sure, the replicant they made of him is at Tesla as their main AI example.
It's all part of an elaborate charade to whoop those fools at Intel when they least expect it.
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:57 pm

chuckula wrote:
That's right suckas. You thought you'd wait for Zen 2? Why do that when you can skip ahead to Zen 5!

Already under development right now, thank you Jim Keller!

Ice Lake just melted.


Ice Lake-SP just thawed out two more memory channels for a total of 8.

This pretty much confirms that Cannon Lake-SP is dead and Cascade Lake-SP (errata fixed Sky Lake-SP) is the stop gap.
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:15 pm

From the article chuckula linked:
As a side note, manufacturers often skip 4 due to its meaning in Chinese culture. It’s an unlucky number because it’s homophonous to the word ‘death’. Something that AMD surely does not want to be associated with Zen architecture.

I guess Intel were never bothered about that :wink:
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:54 pm

Topinio wrote:
From the article chuckula linked:
As a side note, manufacturers often skip 4 due to its meaning in Chinese culture. It’s an unlucky number because it’s homophonous to the word ‘death’. Something that AMD surely does not want to be associated with Zen architecture.
This is something you learn pretty quickly in downtown Vancouver: there often isn't a 4th floor. Or a 13th floor. (Got a superstition? We dont have a floor for that!)
Though a couple of years ago the city finally stopped developers from doing this.
 
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:10 pm

Kind of like AMD going straight from K8 to K10, since K9 would've been a "dog"...
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:34 pm

Zen 5 project manager adds "Zen 5.X" entry to the project tracker

AMD: "Work has already begun on Zen 5."

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Not serious here, just having a bit of fun. :lol:
 
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:51 pm

Ryhadar wrote:
Zen 5 project manager adds "Zen 5.X" entry to the project tracker

AMD: "Work has already begun on Zen 5."

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Not serious here, just having a bit of fun. :lol:
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:55 pm

Topinio wrote:
From the article chuckula linked:
As a side note, manufacturers often skip 4 due to its meaning in Chinese culture. It’s an unlucky number because it’s homophonous to the word ‘death’. Something that AMD surely does not want to be associated with Zen architecture.

I guess Intel were never bothered about that :wink:
Yeah but the Pentium 4 would sound more like saying 54 in Chinese? Which a quick Google says 54 'sounds like'
54 (pinyin: wǔ sì; Cantonese Yale: ńg sei) sounds like "no death" in Mandarin (無死, wú sǐ) and Cantonese (唔死, m̀ séi).
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:43 am

Mr Bill wrote:
Its all about the PenteZen?


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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:51 am

K-L-Waster wrote:
Mr Bill wrote:
Its all about the PenteZen?

Careful, or we'll have to Ctrl+Alt+Delete you.

What kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:40 pm

The article wrote:
So far, we only knew about Zen 2 and Zen 3, both 7nm architectures.

To me it is just the usual skipping of 4, not skipping both 3 and 4. Am I reading the subject wrong?

These things take like 3-5 years to develop. So isn't this just business as usual? I'm really krogothed on this so-called "news". Perhaps to a certain gerbil whose username starts with w, but seriously?
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:44 am

Zentium!

Also, I would've totally bought a K9. I remember being disappointed at missing out on all the possible jokes.
 
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Re: Zen gave 3 and 4 a miss and went straight to 5

Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:10 pm

Flying Fox wrote:
To me it is just the usual skipping of 4, not skipping both 3 and 4. Am I reading the subject wrong?

You are correct, TFA mentions Zen 3 twice so post subject is off.

Additionally, Zen+ launched today on Friday 13th so I guess AMD is being fake superstitious here :roll:
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