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* 300 series boards, just in case I needed a disclaimer.

https://videocardz.com/76849/asrock-con ... otherboard

Seems like for some reason, even a lowly H310 will happily accept a purported octacore Intel CPU.

One does strongly wonder about the usually barebones power delivery being able to cope with the purported CPUs or not, though...

This lack of segmentation makes me cry on the inside!

chuckula wrote:

This lack of segmentation makes me cry on the inside!

Well, it may work for 8 core chips, but only those built on Thursday afternoon by technicians named Wei Li and Shriharan Ramachandran. If you want chips from a different shift or set of techs you'll need the H310_324308904385 motherboards.

If the 8-core Coffee Lake refresh works with nothing more than a BIOS update, that'd be very nice. If the price is reasonable, I'd consider plunking down some green for one myself... Moving my Ryzen to the role of dedicated Linux box and number cruncher and getting a modest IPC improvement for day to day stuff in Windows wouldn't make me sad.

New i7s are rumored to be 8C/8T, which I guess will be just as fast as current 6C/12T 8700K in MT except a larger die and soldered heat spreader for better cooling.

Which is still boring at current DDR4 prices and/or if you don't need a lot of cores.

Yeah RAM prices are somewhat insane. I read a lot of people saying that over the last months but when I looked at DDR4 yesterday, (just for fun) I almost fell off my chair.
I am very happy that there is no need to upgrade from my Ivy i5 just yet, even though 8 cores sound tempting.

Ifalna wrote:

Yeah RAM prices are somewhat insane. I read a lot of people saying that over the last months but when I looked at DDR4 yesterday, (just for fun) I almost fell off my chair.
I am very happy that there is no need to upgrade from my Ivy i5 just yet, even though 8 cores sound tempting.

Things are improving though, just saw Patriot 32GB DDR4-3200 going @ $310 on Amazon. I'm tempted to buy again when it drops to $200, and definitely will at $150.

I paid $220 for my 32GB Corsair on Feb 2017.

strangerguy wrote:

Things are improving though, just saw Patriot 32GB DDR4-3200 going @ $310 on Amazon. I'm tempted to buy again when it drops to $200, and definitely will at $150.
I paid $220 for my 32GB Corsair on Feb 2017.

150-200 for 32Gigs would be okay, but right now I'd have to pay 180€ for a measly 16. Oo
I bought another 8 gigs (DDR3) in 2016 for friggin 45€.

4GB DDR3 was USD ~20 in 2012 IIRC?
16GB DDR4-3000 hit USD 63 in mid 2016, I think a lot of that can be attributed to by how much Kaby Lake sucked so much donkey butt.

IMO from current and future computing trends the ~$4/GB will be the rock bottom pricing, it's not going to be any lower than that.

strangerguy wrote:

IMO from current and future computing trends the ~$4/GB will be the rock bottom pricing, it's not going to be any lower than that.

I sure hope not, given that the cost of producing DRAM isn't stagnant in terms of cost/bit. There are gains every year.

Waco wrote:

strangerguy wrote:

IMO from current and future computing trends the ~$4/GB will be the rock bottom pricing, it's not going to be any lower than that.

I sure hope not, given that the cost of producing DRAM isn't stagnant in terms of cost/bit. There are gains every year.

Moore's law in the context of fab economics is already dead, it's a miracle enough already if the new gen DRAM kept the same GB/$ as current gen.

strangerguy wrote:

Moore's law in the context of fab economics is already dead, it's a miracle enough already if the new gen DRAM kept the same GB/$ as current gen.

Moore's law does not apply to fabs. :shrug: The only reason DRAM pricing has been wacky is due to the Flash push and smartphones gobbling up far more capacity than predicted.

Waco wrote:

strangerguy wrote:

Moore's law in the context of fab economics is already dead, it's a miracle enough already if the new gen DRAM kept the same GB/$ as current gen.

Moore's law does not apply to fabs. :shrug: The only reason DRAM pricing has been wacky is due to the Flash push and smartphones gobbling up far more capacity than predicted.

It is actually because DRAM manufacturers allocated more of their production towards flash memory in anticipation for growing demand. They thought datacenters/SMBs would start to migrate slowly towards flash since HDD technology is pretty much at a dead-end (Helium is a desperate fad, shingled recording is a niche, while HAMR is DOA). They thought that the demand for DDR4 will continue to be nearly dead, but the recent uptake of crypto-miners, people upgrading from their aging Core 2 era-Ivy Bridge-era hardware to Ryzen/Coffee Lake platform caused an unexpected surge in demand. That's why DDR4 prices are high and flash media is at bargain basement prices outside of ultra-dense/high-end stuff.

...that's what I said.

The news that keep it being good: the new CPUs will be coming this quarter after all and the 9400 joins in the early launch party.

Looks like I'm upgrading early after all!

Original post follows.

Good news: between the request for the removal of the article (not that the Internet ever forgets) and this roadmap leak, it appears that it points to everything so far being real.

No longer bad news: the very same roadmap also purports that the new CPUs will only arrive next year.

Hrm...

This does throw my upgrade plans into a loop, at least.