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What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 3:13 am

For those who have a positive experience with Seagate HDDs, I don't know why I'm getting such a negative experience with them these days, but my experiences are that Seagate HDDs only last 4 to 5 years, while WD's HDDs, my experiences have been very positive, my laptop's WD HDD lasted 11 years until it broke 2 years ago.

Please note that in the late 90s when I was using Windows 98, I had a Seagate HDD and it lasted until 2008, I don't know what happened to Seagate's production quality, but it went down for some reason.
 
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 3:17 am

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The latest data from Backblaze suggest that Seagate's reliability has improved in the past two years. HGST drives designed before they were gobbled up by WD have performed the best in Blackblaze's production environment.
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 7:45 am

Seagate indeed had issues in the early years of this decade. They were on my "avoid" list for a while, then I gave them another chance. Last year they landed back on my "avoid" list again due to their idiotic drive-managed SMR crap.

By most accounts their reliability is back on par with WD these days though, and supposedly they have phased out SMR for consumer drives (though there are still a lot of them in the distribution channels... do yourself a favor and avoid anything with a DM004 suffix on the model name).

The pair of ST3000DM001 drives in my desktop are still doing fine (nearly 27000 power on hours, and zero bad sectors).
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 8:26 am

I guess I've only had my Firecuda for a few years but it's been perfect.

Can't honestly say I use it all that heavily or as an OS drive though.
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 9:23 am

I still love that thing and would prefer to have SSD#3 back on my Xbox One X so back in use it is. :)
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 11:39 am

There's nothing wrong with them currently.
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 5:22 pm

One half of me wants to say "welcome to Tech Report"

The other half of me is cynically wondering why your first post is about SEAGATE BAD, WD GOOD - especially when the best evidence of reliablilty this decade proves the exact opposite, with huge sample size. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but dozens of shill first-post from a new member just like this get deleted by mods every month simply for being hit-and-run FUD that stays buoyant in the search results exactly as a shill would want.

Maybe I've just done too little drinking this evening and haven't fully pacified my jaded cynicism yet.
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Sun May 26, 2019 5:38 pm

Seagate just a bad bout of models that had QC issues that are just recovering from. WD is currently facing the same problem on some SKUs. HDDs in general have drop in long-term reliablity due to growing price pressure from solid-state media and keeping up in the data density race in the face of massive physical limitations and engineering problems.
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Mon May 27, 2019 9:46 am

Where practical, I just refuse to run without RAID nowadays. Some of my Seagates were bad enough I had to give up on them as RMA replacements aren't free (shipping) and they were failing more than once a year, but that was a long time ago.

I'm happy with my Toshiba drives, but they are the first Toshiba 3.5" drives which I think were essentially HGST units? I can't remember how all the mergers went with the conditions regulators put on. I'm pretty sure didn't start from scratch with making 3.5" drives.
 
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Mon May 27, 2019 10:04 am

captaintrav wrote:
Where practical, I just refuse to run without RAID nowadays. Some of my Seagates were bad enough I had to give up on them as RMA replacements aren't free (shipping) and they were failing more than once a year, but that was a long time ago.

Other than drives used for external backups, I RAID my mechanical storage too. Typically RAID-1 for my desktop, and (these days) RAID-6 for my DIY NAS.

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I'm happy with my Toshiba drives, but they are the first Toshiba 3.5" drives which I think were essentially HGST units? I can't remember how all the mergers went with the conditions regulators put on. I'm pretty sure didn't start from scratch with making 3.5" drives.

They had gotten out of the 3.5" business, then got back in when WD was forced to spin off some of the HGST IP and manufacturing capacity to get regulatory approval for the merger.
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Re: What is wrong with Seagate's HDDs?

Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:34 am

New to the forum, but not to Seagate, WD, HGST and the others. I remember back when Seagates were the cream of the crop and on the cutting edge like the Cheetah drives.

But then they had pricing pressures as 'consumer' drives came into play which let to Mr. Shughart who basically invented hard drives and was the founder of Seagate to be ousted from his own company by shareholders. Well, that caused a lot of carnage over the years as their product became consumer garbage, even on the high end. And WD, et al stepped up their game and started to innovate and make great products like the velociraptor series.

And then merger mania has absorbed a lot of the names of old--Quantum, Maxtor, Connor, Miniscribe(?), IBM and more. Today, basically Seagate and Western Digital absorbed everyone else.

And some of the products are quite impressive. I just hooked up an old WD RE series to an old HP laptop via esata and was surprised to see read and write speeds well over 100Mb/sec sustained for reads and writes. I remember the days when these were just internal transfer speeds...

I primarily get HGST and WD Black for anything important with 5 yr warranties and 1M+ mtbf. I'll grab other drives if they're cheap, but they will never be primary--only backups. And as usual, 3 backups, 2 different locations, 2 different media to be safe.

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