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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:32 pm

6C/6T would be directly competing with the 9600K. I wonder how the intel chip will fare ...
 
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:12 am

Core i5-9600K is a $245 processor. That's at least 1½ times the price expected for the new budget CPUs from AMD. On a price basis, Core i5-9600K is going up against the Ryzen 5 3600X.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:14 pm

Here's another CPU to fill in a market niche between the Ryzen 7 3800K and the Ryzen 9 3900K:
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen- ... re-65w-tdp
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:23 pm

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20190926PD203.html
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TSMC is now advising its clients to book capacity for the entire year 2020 if they want to be sure of supply.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:29 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20190926PD203.html
DigiTimes wrote:
TSMC is now advising its clients to book capacity for the entire year 2020 if they want to be sure of supply.


Yikes.

Better get your projections right, or you could be sitting on a pile of inventory of the parts of your product stack customers aren't interested in and be unable to supply the parts customers actually do want.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:31 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Here's another CPU to fill in a market niche between the Ryzen 7 3800K and the Ryzen 9 3900K:
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen- ... re-65w-tdp


Suggests there should also be a 3700 (non-X), doesn't it? 8 cores, 16 threads, clocked at 3.6 / 4.2 boost, priced somewhere between the 3700X and 3600X.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:43 am

K-L-Waster wrote:
Suggests there should also be a 3700 (non-X), doesn't it? 8 cores, 16 threads, clocked at 3.6 / 4.2 boost, priced somewhere between the 3700X and 3600X.
Speculation is that demand for EPYC is extremely strong, so most of the good 8-core chiplets will go to those high-margin parts. If this is true, we may see pricing/availability favor 6-core chiplets in the desktop market until demand and supply get into balance.

My own speculation is also that as TSMC's 7nm process matures and defect rates come down, more customers will want to switch from older nodes to the new node, especially those larger chips like GPUs or AMD's own semi-custom chips for next-generation consoles. With only TSMC, Samsung and Intel willing to invest in developing advanced chip fabrication processes, supply may not keep up with demand - which leads to higher prices. Maybe my TSM ADRs will turn a good profit in the next couple of years. I wish that I had been smart enough to buy AMD when Lisa Su became CEO in October 2014.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:14 pm

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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:57 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-7nm-sales-market-research-semiconductor-2019,40486.html
Sales projections are rosy.

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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:34 pm

Lovely blurb for the Ryzen 3600:

"Can deliver ultra fast 100+ FPS performance in the world's most popular games"
"35MB GameCache" (that's part of the Tech Specs)

But how many 1337cOaReZ?
 
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:08 pm

meerkt wrote:
Lovely blurb for the Ryzen 3600:

"Can deliver ultra fast 100+ FPS performance in the world's most popular games"
"35MB GameCache" (that's part of the Tech Specs)

But how many 1337cOaReZ?


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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:26 am

German DIY computer builders are still gobbling up Ryzen 3000-series CPUs:
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen- ... sales-data
Mindfactory reports selling nearly 18,000 Ryzen processors in September, versus less than 5,000 Intel CPUs. That breaks down to 8 out of 10 processors sold being AMD chips. For the month of September, AMD processors accounted for 75 percent of Mindfactory's CPU revenue, at around 4 million euros. Meanwhile, Intel processors accounted for 25 percent of the overall CPU revenue, at less than 1.5 million euros.
It looks like the most popular CPUs are Ryzen R5 3600, R7 3700X and R5 2600.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:13 am

Apple is consuming more of TSMC's 7 nm production capacity:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple ... 40553.html
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:32 am

PC sales actually grew last quarter as the stick-in-the-mud Windows 7 holdouts are finally upgrading.
https://hothardware.com/news/global-pc- ... he-rebound
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:48 pm

Alienware Aurora Ryzen Edition (with Ryzen R9 3950X Geekbench results):
https://pcper.com/2019/11/a-glimpse-of-amds-3950x/
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:14 am

Ryzen R9 3950X looking strong in pass mark:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen ... 762.0.html
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:30 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Ryzen R9 3950X looking strong in pass mark:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen ... 762.0.html

Has anybody seen a benchmark where the 3950x trails the TR2950X?

I’d think something would benefit from twice the RAM bandwidth but so far I haven’t seen it...
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:28 am

blastdoor wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
Ryzen R9 3950X looking strong in pass mark:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen ... 762.0.html

Has anybody seen a benchmark where the 3950x trails the TR2950X?

I’d think something would benefit from twice the RAM bandwidth but so far I haven’t seen it...


Probably true.

Most of the benchmarking I have seen so far is intended to isolate for CPU performance, so memory bandwidth hasn't been critical. (And if it had been, the comment threads would probably be full of people squawking about "you're bottlenecking it, you're trying to make the 3950X look bad, shill!!!1!1!").
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:55 am

blastdoor wrote:
Has anybody seen a benchmark where the 3950x trails the TR2950X?

AES encoding at the bottom of the "CPU Performance: Encoding Tests" page is the only instance in the AnandTech review:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15043/th ... th-pcie-40
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:20 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
blastdoor wrote:
Has anybody seen a benchmark where the 3950x trails the TR2950X?

AES encoding at the bottom of the "CPU Performance: Encoding Tests" page is the only instance in the AnandTech review:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15043/th ... th-pcie-40


What's odd about that one is the 3900X also substantially outperforms the 3950X, which makes no sense (same memory bandwidth and down 4 cores + some clockspeed = faster???).
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:10 am

The Ryzen 9 3950X made a clean sweep of the benchmarks vs. all sub-$1900 processors in Hot Hardware's review :
https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryz ... n-2-review
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:11 am

Here's a roundup of more than three dozen reviews for the Ryzen 9 3950X:
https://videocardz.com/82852/amd-ryzen- ... ew-roundup
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:02 pm

AMD may buy more 7 nm wafers from TSMC than Apple does in the second half of this year.
https://www.techpowerup.com/262590/amd- ... er-in-2020
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:09 am

When do their contracts with GF for 12/14nm chips expire?
 
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:25 pm

https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen- ... es-figures
Ryzen 3000 family has been absolutely crushing it with respect to sales performance.

Mindfactory's numbers for January reveal that AMD garnered a whopping 85 percent of the DIY PC market. That left Intel scraping by with just 15 percent of the CPU market in Germany. Looking at CPU architectures, Matisse (Zen 2) commanded 46 percent of the market, with Pinnacle Ridge (Zen+) coming in second with 23 percent.

Moving to the month of February, AMD further increased its share of the market to 87 percent compared to just 13 percent for Intel. Of all processors sold during February, the Ryzen 5 3600 took the lion's share of the market, with the Ryzen 7 3700X taking second place. When it comes to Intel's processors, the best-selling SKU was the Core i7 9700K.

Comet Lake-S is still built on Intel's aging 14nm process node, and there have been some early concerns that thermals for the processors are getting out of hand. Offering up to 10 cores (Core i9-10900K), Comet Lake-S will be Intel's best chance yet at countering Ryzen 3000 which is available in even more potent 12-core (Ryzen 9 3900X) and 16-core (Ryzen 9 3950X) configurations. With that being said, whatever Intel brings to the table with Comet Lake-S will be followed up in short order by AMD's Zen 3-based, 7nm+ Ryzen 4000 desktop processor family. These processors are expected to launch in the second half of 2020.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:38 am

Good news if you use MATLAB with Intel's MKL:
https://www.techpowerup.com/265290/amd- ... mkl-update
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:15 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Good news if you use MATLAB with Intel's MKL:
https://www.techpowerup.com/265290/amd- ... mkl-update


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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:55 am

The remarkable thing is that it has taken since 2011 to correct this blatantly anti-competitive behavior.
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 pm

Mobile Ryzen looking very good.
 
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Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:59 pm

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15736/am ... rs-from-99
Ryzen 3 3100 and 3300X are low-cost quad-core 8-thread processors. Each of these bargain CPUs is half of a Ryzen 7 3700X, but one is split vertically and one is split horizontally.
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