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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:17 pm

Asus has eased the pain of shortages of Intel 14nm CPUs by reducing the use of low-end Intel CPUs in its product mix and by offering more products using AMD CPUs.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15114/as ... -uncertain
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:17 am

Uh oh...
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15132/in ... ent-delays
Michelle Johnston Holthaus, Intel’s EVP and GM of Sales, Marketing and Communications wrote:
I’d like to acknowledge and sincerely apologize for the impact recent PC CPU shipment delays are having on your business.... Despite our best efforts, we have not yet resolved this challenge....
Supply remains extremely tight in our PC business where we are operating with limited inventory buffers. This makes us less able to absorb the impact of any production variability, which we have experienced in the quarter. This has resulted in the shipment delays you are experiencing, which we appreciate is creating significant challenges for your business. Because the impact and revised shipment schedules vary, Intel representatives are reaching out with additional information and to answer your questions.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:22 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Uh oh...
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15132/in ... ent-delays
Michelle Johnston Holthaus, Intel’s EVP and GM of Sales, Marketing and Communications wrote:
I’d like to acknowledge and sincerely apologize for the impact recent PC CPU shipment delays are having on your business.... Despite our best efforts, we have not yet resolved this challenge....
Supply remains extremely tight in our PC business where we are operating with limited inventory buffers. This makes us less able to absorb the impact of any production variability, which we have experienced in the quarter. This has resulted in the shipment delays you are experiencing, which we appreciate is creating significant challenges for your business. Because the impact and revised shipment schedules vary, Intel representatives are reaching out with additional information and to answer your questions.


I wonder how much of this can be attributed to AMD forcing intel to sell 8 core CPUs at a price that intel had planned to charge for four core CPUs....
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:59 pm

This can't be right...
https://www.techpowerup.com/261611/inte ... u-included

Yet ANOTHER 14 nm Skylake "generation" of Intel desktop CPUs in 2021???
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:07 pm

2015 called...
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:42 pm

Intel's 14 nm process will end up so incredibly optimized in 2021 ... that Intel will hardly be able to achieve better performance at 10 nm or finer nodes.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:20 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
This can't be right...
https://www.techpowerup.com/261611/inte ... u-included

Yet ANOTHER 14 nm Skylake "generation" of Intel desktop CPUs in 2021???


And this rumor is back:

https://www.techpowerup.com/261641/sams ... from-intel
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:33 am

I heard from an European vendor just about 2 months ago that sourcing on intel chips might be a problem for this one thing were going to be doing. I was like "uhh, that's odd..."

Kinda forgot about it, but that's interesting.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:43 am

https://www.techpowerup.com/261987/inte ... april-2020
April 2020 launch for Comet Lake desktop CPUs.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:08 pm

https://www.techpowerup.com/262506/inte ... s-revealed
Built on a 14 nm-class silicon fabrication node, and featuring the same IPC as "Skylake," the 10th generation Core "Comet Lake" series will rely on aggressive power-management. The 10th generation Core K SKUs have a scorching 125 W TDP rating not just for the 10-core i9-10900K and 8-core i7-10700K, but also the 6-core i5-10600K.

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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:01 pm

125W TDP isn't that big of a deal; it's still easily manageable with an inexpensive air cooler. Heck, most of AMD's Bulldozer/Piledriver 8-core CPUs had 125W TDP.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:55 pm

With AMD at $46 and Intel at $59; my gut feeling is that Intel is a buy and AMD is a hold. I hope Intel manages to pull something out of its hat for this year. That said, I'd still buy AMD for a build :D .
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:03 pm

Another socket change ...
 
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:14 am

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Intel is still having issues supplying its customers.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel ... -hp-lenovo

Intel's statement to THG has not aged very well. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:22 am

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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:40 am

Wow. If true, that's a hellaciously bad look for them. Over double the power consumption of AMD (socket TDP limit for 3900X/3950X is 142 watts) with 2 to 6 fewer cores.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:58 pm

Waco wrote:
Wow. If true, that's a hellaciously bad look for them. Over double the power consumption of AMD (socket TDP limit for 3900X/3950X is 142 watts) with 2 to 6 fewer cores.


But is this power draw or TDP? The articles seem to intermingle the two ideas.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:00 am

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Waco wrote:
Wow. If true, that's a hellaciously bad look for them. Over double the power consumption of AMD (socket TDP limit for 3900X/3950X is 142 watts) with 2 to 6 fewer cores.


But is this power draw or TDP? The articles seem to intermingle the two ideas.

Given that TDP (for Intel) doesn't really mean anything, power draw is really all that matters. AMDs wattage limits are less than half what Intels are purported to be.

EDIT: I see the confusion. AMD limits socket power draw, I used TDP instead. I blame lack of coffee.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:22 am

Too bad TR died just as this was all occurring, I wanted to see how chuckula would spin all these events.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:00 am

blastdoor wrote:
Waco wrote:
Wow. If true, that's a hellaciously bad look for them. Over double the power consumption of AMD (socket TDP limit for 3900X/3950X is 142 watts) with 2 to 6 fewer cores.


But is this power draw or TDP? The articles seem to intermingle the two ideas.


This article is talking about the power draw the motherboards have to be able to handle... and points out that at 300W it's equivalent to the Threadripper 3970X 32 core processor which has a maximum power draw of under 300 Watts at full load across all cores.

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10900k-10-core-cpu-300w-power-consumption/
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:36 pm

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blastdoor wrote:
Waco wrote:
Wow. If true, that's a hellaciously bad look for them. Over double the power consumption of AMD (socket TDP limit for 3900X/3950X is 142 watts) with 2 to 6 fewer cores.


But is this power draw or TDP? The articles seem to intermingle the two ideas.


This article is talking about the power draw the motherboards have to be able to handle... and points out that at 300W it's equivalent to the Threadripper 3970X 32 core processor which has a maximum power draw of under 300 Watts at full load across all cores.

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10900k-10-core-cpu-300w-power-consumption/


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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:38 pm

cegras wrote:
Too bad TR died just as this was all occurring, I wanted to see how chuckula would spin all these events.


Perhaps there was a vast conspiracy by Intel to kill TR as a way to exfiltrate their special agent super dragon (aka chuckula)

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