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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:13 am

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core- ... rials-leak
https://www.techpowerup.com/265467/inte ... ore-counts
Comet Lake -S 14 nm processors and LGA1200 motherboards with the z490 chipset are expected to be released for desktops at the end of this month.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:43 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-10900k-core-i7-10700k-and-core-i5-10600k-marketing-materials-leak
https://www.techpowerup.com/265467/inte ... ore-counts
Comet Lake -S 14 nm processors and LGA1200 motherboards with the z490 chipset are expected to be released for desktops at the end of this month.


Such a disappointment though. Intel is drawing at straws and resorting to factory overclocking and aggressive voltages on 14nm node in the vain attempt to stay ahead of Zen2 (albeit by a small margin). I suppose that the only silver lining is that HT is commonplace again instead of being exclusive to selected SKUs.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:17 am

The thing that excites me about the whole thing so far is this proves we need competition.
Imagine if AMD was not resurgent with ZEN?
Intel would never have started to innovate again!

AMD gave them a swift kick in the pants and now they are taking a good hard hard look at things.
Just in time to make sure that AMD does not start slacking off.

My next machine will definitely be a AMD machine but the one after that, who knows?!
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:42 am

https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-11 ... -its-hands

Well, at least on the notebook front, Intel might get things interesting again with Tiger Lake in Q3/Q4.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:28 am

Igor_Kavinski wrote:
https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-11th-gen-core-i7-1185g7-benchmarks-suggests-amd-could-have-a-fight-on-its-hands

Well, at least on the notebook front, Intel might get things interesting again with Tiger Lake in Q3/Q4.


Rocket lake on the desktop also seems interesting. They might not be able to compete in core count due to being stuck on 14nm, but IPC gains and the clock speed of the mature 14nm process could make Rocket Lake a pretty competitive product for many workloads.

Ice Lake Xeons could also be pretty competitive.

I wonder if 2021 will bring the closest competition we've had between Intel and AMD since.... https://techreport.com/review/5683/amds ... processor/ ?
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:12 pm

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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:33 am

I'm sad that we will never find out if chuckula left because intel stopped his checks, or if it was due to the slow death of TR. I would have liked to see his take on the current situation. 350 W 10900 K, but a strong quarter for intel, right?
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:06 am

cegras wrote:
I'm sad that we will never find out if chuckula left because intel stopped his checks, or if it was due to the slow death of TR. I would have liked to see his take on the current situation. 350 W 10900 K, but a strong quarter for intel, right?


He's probably just embarrassed for Intel. They've decisively lost their manufacturing lead to TSMC, their chips are inferior to AMD, their 5g mobile efforts failed, they are very likely to lose Apple as a customer, Amazon is working to displace them from AWS. It's just a big pile of hurt -- more than Chuckula can bear, I'm sure.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:14 am

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15758/in ... ke-desktop
Z490 motherboard VRM designs are reportedly targeted at providing 320 - 350 watts continuously to accommodate what those "125 W TDP" processors really want to maintain boost clocks.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:15 pm

Socket changes like this are annoying. I have a socket 115X PC right now, this could have been a cheap upgrade to provide additional warmth to my office some day.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Fri May 01, 2020 10:45 am

That's a whole lot of new motherboards for the 5th iteration of Intel's 14nm Skylake micro-architecture.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15723/th ... d-overview

Intel Tick-Tock Roadmap
Cycle Process Introduction Micro­archi­tecture
Tick 65 nm 2005 Pentium D
Tock 65 nm 2006 Core
Tick 45 nm 2007 Penryn
Tock 45 nm 2008 Nehalem
Tick 32 nm 2009 Westmere
Tock 32 nm 2010 Sandy Bridge
Tick 22 nm 2011 Ivy Bridge
Tock 22 nm 2013 Haswell
Tick 14 nm 2014 Broadwell
Tock 14 nm 2015 Skylake
O... 14 nm 2016 Kaby Lake (Skylake+)
O... 14 nm 2017 Coffee Lake (Skylake++)
O... 14 nm 2018 Coffee Lake Refresh (Skylake+++)
O... 14 nm 2020 Comet Lake (Skylake++++)
Tock 14 nm 2020? Rocket Lake
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Sat May 16, 2020 8:45 am

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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed May 20, 2020 12:02 pm

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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed May 20, 2020 12:19 pm

From the Anand review the new chips do surprisingly well and produce enough heat to burn off any lingering corona virus floating through your office. The new MB requirement is unfortunate as the CPU pricing seems ok. As an upgrade it might be ok but with the cost of a new MB not sure why someone would jump on the platform.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed May 20, 2020 4:22 pm

10900K and 10900 are in "avoid territory" as expected. 10700K is a slightly cheaper 9900K tied to a newer motherboard platform which at least one more CPU upgrade available to it. If you really need to go Intel and haven't got a Coffee Lake system yet. Look no further then 10700K (cheaper 9900K) or opt for 10600K (cheaper 8700K). The extra two cores do little to nothing for 10900K since you end-up becoming thermally limited (ends-up falling behind 3900X instead of contesting it). Honestly, Intel could have done a simple price war on their existing Coffee Lake SKUs and just waited until they moved beyond Skylake-derivatives. They would have saved on R&D and validation costs.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed May 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Krogoth wrote:
If you really need to go Intel and haven't got a Coffee Lake system yet. Look no further then 10700K.
Why would I "really need to go Intel"? :-?
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed May 20, 2020 4:49 pm

To impress Krogoth?
What we have today is way too much pluribus and not enough unum.
 
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Wed May 20, 2020 4:49 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
If you really need to go Intel and haven't got a Coffee Lake system yet. Look no further then 10700K.
Why would I "really need to go Intel"? :-?


Outside of a few use cases (You want Optane memory and/or need to get insane framerates on ancient games, certain niche applications). There aren't really that many compelling reasons.
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Re: Intel 10th-generation Comet Lake in 2020 on 14+++++ nm

Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:12 am

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