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https://www.techpowerup.com/257879/inte ... xperiences
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14664/te ... -lake-10nm
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Our-first ... 323.0.html
Those base frequencies look really low. After waiting more than five years for Intel's next process technology after 14nm, I was hoping for a lot better performance.

Yes, but IPC should be up. So maybe not improved performance in sustained loads but burst should be better and power consumption should be down.

JustAnEngineer wrote:

https://www.techpowerup.com/257879/intel-launches-first-10th-gen-core-processors-redefining-the-next-era-of-laptop-experiences
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14664/te ... -lake-10nm
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Our-first ... 323.0.html
Those base frequencies look really low. After waiting more than five years for Intel's next process technology after 14nm, I was hoping for a lot better performance.

700Mhz BASE CLOCK BABY, WOOOOOOO!!!!

**sounds of musclecar engines revving**

Line 'em up with Mr Bill's dual Pentium III's and race for pinks!!

JustAnEngineer wrote:

Those base frequencies look really low. After waiting more than five years for Intel's next process technology after 14nm, I was hoping for a lot better performance.

Let's remember these are mobile parts -- highest TDP in the bunch is 28W. Moar Powa isn't their brief.

The Egg wrote:

JustAnEngineer wrote:

https://www.techpowerup.com/257879/intel-launches-first-10th-gen-core-processors-redefining-the-next-era-of-laptop-experiences
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14664/te ... -lake-10nm
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Our-first ... 323.0.html
Those base frequencies look really low. After waiting more than five years for Intel's next process technology after 14nm, I was hoping for a lot better performance.

700Mhz BASE CLOCK BABY, WOOOOOOO!!!!

**sounds of musclecar engines revving**

Line 'em up with Mr Bill's dual Pentium III's and race for pinks!!

I would have no problem with the base being 100Mhz if it can snap to turbo speeds in a few hundred clocks. I don't really need to run "System Idle Process" at full speed.

roncat wrote:

The Egg wrote:

700Mhz BASE CLOCK BABY, WOOOOOOO!!!!

**sounds of musclecar engines revving**

Line 'em up with Mr Bill's dual Pentium III's and race for pinks!!

I would have no problem with the base being 100Mhz if it can snap to turbo speeds in a few hundred clocks. I don't really need to run "System Idle Process" at full speed.

Already done with Dynamic frequency scaling. I get that they're low-power parts (and I was obviously being facetious), but a chip marketed as midrange (an i5) for 2020 with a 700mhz (circa 1999) base clock is still a bit funny to me. They're relying on turbo speeds for essentially all the performance, and that's somewhat of an unknown (don't know how it ramps up by core count, how long it can be sustained, etc). Perhaps it will work great in practice for mobile and it's all just a matter of interpretation, IDK.

My biggest draw from this (and where most of my interest lies) is that Ice Lake will (or would be) seriously frequency constrained at the high-end if brought to desktop chips. To the point that it negates almost all of the IPC gains (or maybe it doesn't even break even). I wouldn't be surprised if they skip it entirely on the desktop.

Well base speed is supposed to be what it can handle no matter what no matter how long and isn't idle speed. I guess to make 6 watts you can't be running over 700Mhz?

I don't mind a slower base speed in a laptop and relying on turbo/boost to make up the performance difference for doing real work but under 1 GHz?

They're fitting AVX-512 (albeit with only 1/clock FMA throughput), four cores, and 48 EUs in a 9W TDP, and the CPU arch doesn't seem to clock so well to start with. It's understandable that the worst-case clocks are pretty ugly, and I bet it'll be tough to get it to drop that far in practice, especially in the bursty workloads a part like this is most likely to see in the first place.

derFunkenstein likes Ice Lake Core i7-1065G7:
https://hothardware.com/reviews/dell-xp ... n-ice-lake
"10-65" = Radio log number