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Paul Lilly wrote:

Zen 4: possibly 6nm or 5nm, in design, slated to launch in 2021 (Ryzen 5000 series?)
Zen 3: 7nm+, design is completed, slated to launch in 2020 (Ryzen 4000 series?)
Zen 2: 7nm, launched in July 2019 (Ryzen 3000 series)
Zen+: 12nm, launched in April 2018 (Ryzen 2000 series)
Zen: 14nm, launched in February 2017 (Ryzen 1000 series)

When asked by CrimsonRayne at RedGamingTech if the Zen3 IPC gains would be in the neighborhood of 5-8 percent, the source said it would be even higher.

Aranarth wrote:

https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-3-to-deliver-8-ipc-200mhz-higher-clock-vs-zen-2-rumors-indicate/

It surprises me they keep finding such large ipc gains...

Plus it looks like they found more frquency boosts as well...

just brew it! wrote:

E.g... from the early 1970s to to the mid-1990s, microprocessor clock speeds increased by roughly a factor of 100. From the mid-1990s to the present, clock speeds have increased by roughly a factor of 20, and have barely changed at all in the past half decade.

A prominent Taiwanese newspaper reported that AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su will formally unveil next-generation "Zen 3" CPU microarchitecture at the 2020 International CES.
The "Vermeer" processor is a client-desktop MCM that succeeds "Matisse," and will implement "Zen 3" chiplets.

AMD's 4th generation Ryzen desktop processors are expected to launch around September 2020, sources in the motherboard industry tell DigiTimes. Codenamed "Vermeer," successor to "Matisse," these processors will be socket AM4 multi-chip modules of up to two CPU complex dies based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, combined with an I/O controller die. The "Zen 3" chiplets are expected to be fabricated on a newer 7 nm-class process by TSMC, either N7P or N7+. The biggest design change with "Zen 3" is the doing away of CCX arrangement of CPU cores, with each chiplet holding a common block of cores sharing a last-level cache. This, along with clock speed headroom gains from the new node are expected to yield generational price-performance increases.

JustAnEngineer wrote:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-cpus-release-date
https://www.techpowerup.com/265585/amd- ... ember-2020

AMD's 4th generation Ryzen desktop processors are expected to launch around September 2020, sources in the motherboard industry tell DigiTimes. Codenamed "Vermeer," successor to "Matisse," these processors will be socket AM4 multi-chip modules of up to two CPU complex dies based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, combined with an I/O controller die. The "Zen 3" chiplets are expected to be fabricated on a newer 7 nm-class process by TSMC, either N7P or N7+. The biggest design change with "Zen 3" is the doing away of CCX arrangement of CPU cores, with each chiplet holding a common block of cores sharing a last-level cache. This, along with clock speed headroom gains from the new node are expected to yield generational price-performance increases.

Waco wrote:

I'm trying to convince the wife she needs an upgrade (to my 3900X) so I can justify getting a 4000 series.

Waco wrote:

I'm trying to convince the wife she needs an upgrade (to my 3900X) so I can justify getting a 4000 series.

Concupiscence wrote:

I can't even fathom a 3900x feeling slow. What are you doing with it?

Glorious wrote:

Concupiscence wrote:

I can't even fathom a 3900x feeling slow. What are you doing with it?

dammit igor

Concupiscence wrote:

I can't even fathom a 3900x feeling slow. What are you doing with it?

Waco wrote:

...and I'm tired of hearing the wife's overclocked 4770K causing her water loop to scream.

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Waco wrote:

...and I'm tired of hearing the wife's overclocked 4770K causing her water loop to scream.

That makes me even more curious. Overclocking was her idea or did you set it up for her? Why does she need it overclocked? What is she doing on it? Running scientific simulations?

Waco wrote:

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Waco wrote:

...and I'm tired of hearing the wife's overclocked 4770K causing her water loop to scream.

That makes me even more curious. Overclocking was her idea or did you set it up for her? Why does she need it overclocked? What is she doing on it? Running scientific simulations?

I know your perspective on women is...different, so I'll humor you.

My wife has a master's degree in computer engineering. She used to review computer hardware (even before I did). I'm not allowed to work on her computer.

Does that answer your question?

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Waco wrote:

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

That makes me even more curious. Overclocking was her idea or did you set it up for her? Why does she need it overclocked? What is she doing on it? Running scientific simulations?

I know your perspective on women is...different, so I'll humor you.

My wife has a master's degree in computer engineering. She used to review computer hardware (even before I did). I'm not allowed to work on her computer.

Does that answer your question?

Impressive, to say the least. But is she allowed on your computer?

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Impressive, to say the least. But is she allowed on your computer?

Wirko wrote:

What would happen if she, a proven heavy overclocker, somehow gained remote access to his hundreds of thousands of cores?

Captain Ned wrote:

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Impressive, to say the least. But is she allowed on your computer?

You really are 100% clueless about women, aren't you?

Captain Ned wrote:

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Impressive, to say the least. But is she allowed on your computer?

You really are 100% clueless about women, aren't you?

Igor_Kavinski wrote:

Isn't almost everyone clueless about women to some extent? They are unpredictable creatures ruled by their emotions and hormones.

just brew it! wrote:

and/or gravitational effects of far-off planets and stars.

"A ramp-up in short lead-time orders placed by AMD and Nvidia will allow TSMC to post relatively strong results compared to other foundries in the first half of 2020, according to industry sources." -Digitimes, Apr. 23, 2020.
AMD is set to become TSMC's largest 7nm customer by 2H 2020, dethroning Qualcomm, and HiSilicon. AMD recently booked an order of 30,000 wafers in one single "swoop" that accounted for 21% of the total capacity at TSMC at that time. Capacity at TSMC has been fully booked since the start of the year, and any spare capacity was created due to the impact of the coronavirus.