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I7-4700 vs i7-4770k

Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:24 pm

I saw the 4770 non k for sale for $220 at tiger direct last night, so I looked for some reviews but couldn't find any...
Only thing I seem to read is that it's absolutely not possibly to overclock In any ways.

I kind of wanted faster then 1600 ddr3, so I passed on the deal.

What I don't get is that the k was $320.. That seem like a huge premium for overcloking...

Now the price jumped to $300 making the k And non k almost th same price.

So if Intel can sale the i7-4770 for $220 (with grid2) then it seem possible that the i7-4700k will also go on sale at the same price at any time.?
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Re: I7-4700 vs i7-4770k

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:32 pm

There are a few other differences. The non-K has VT-d (direct I/O virtualization - you'd know if you need it) and TSX, which may actually be a meaningful difference in the future. I don't think it's likely the 4770K will be price dropped to near $200 by Intel any time soon though. You never know what kind of wacky deals vendors may have but near $200 just seems too low - they'd just sell out instantly.
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Re: I7-4700 vs i7-4770k

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:11 pm

The difference is that people want a 4770K, they'll pay full price if they have to.

The 4770 non-K is very little demand, so you'd actually see people walk into the store to buy one, realize the sale has ended, and leave with nothing, or a K CPU.

4770K = high demand, no discounts.
4770 = low demand, many discounts.
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Re: I7-4700 vs i7-4770k

Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:02 pm

It's is still a awesome fast 8 threaded CPU that would let you run all 4 cores at 3.9ghz and maybe be able to up the base clock 4 or 5 MHz for another100+ MHz. Also these days overclocking is not necessary for a great rig. Especially since Intel still did not solder on the IHS to the CPU so you would not need a extravagant cooling solution. But I would still get a nice quiet cooler over the Intel stock piece of crapola. Like a 30$ hyper 212evo and get a good quiet fan if the cooler master fan is too loud.
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Re: I7-4700 vs i7-4770k

Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:10 am

sschaem, I bought a i7-4770K a couple of weeks ago along with an AsRock Z87 board in a combo deal from newegg for $425. The processor was basically $250 and yes it was a K. honestly, I would have taken a non-K if it would have been $30 cheaper because I don't bother spending the time to overclock anymore. besides not having the ability for VT-d, the K version is only 100 MHz faster non-overclocked at turbo mode. 3.9 Ghz I believe. Intel has smartened up when it came to their marketing strategy since sandy bridge came out. they know there will always be people who are going to overclock their cpu and they figured out a way to make a little extra dough for themselves out of it by putting out an unlocked (or K) version of the higher end cpus. maybe they think they didn't make enough extra because they left too much headroom on the non-K cpus for sandy and ivy bridge so now we have the new haswell CPUs that are completely locked if they are not the K version. they have simply created a market to see how many out there are those don't care about overclocking and those that do. People have been overclocking CPUs for 2 decades now. its not going to change. whats changed is the knowledge is now out there that it can be done and isn't that difficult to do as in the past. I still remember my first overclock. good old Celeron 300 Slot A running at 450 Mhz. used to play Diablo on that machine.
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Re: I7-4700 vs i7-4770k

Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:45 am

Intel isn't supporting VT-d with the Z87, H87, Q85 or B85 versions of the Lynx Point PCH chipset. You're supposed to get the Q87, C226 or C224 branded versions of the Lynx Point chip if you want VT-d. Evil anti-consumer market segmentation schemes strike again.
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