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Xeon E3 1230v3 Compatibility W/ H/Z87

Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:03 am

HELP!!!!!!!!!

I was going to get myself the i7 4770 and someone suggested I get the Xeon E3 1230 v3 to save myself quite a bit of cash. They both use socket 1150. So you would think they can both be used on H87 or Z87 motherboards. I had one person step up and tell me that I could not get the Xeon processor because it is meant for C220 series chipsets. So I checked the datasheet and that is the only chipset it lists for it to be used with. You can see for yourself on page 9: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ ... rs/xeon/...

Now there's people out there making the claim that the Xeon will in fact work with the H/Z87 motherboards....can someone tell the truth on this matter?
 
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Re: Xeon E3 1230v3 Compatibility W/ H/Z87

Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:26 am

If you go to the CPU Support List for the motherboard you're wanting to use, it indeed lists that Xeon. Intel probably doesn't show Z87 because it doesn't support all the features that Xeons can use (ECC memory, etc). If your future motherboard has it on the list, I'd say you're pretty safe to use it.
 
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Re: Xeon E3 1230v3 Compatibility W/ H/Z87

Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:28 am

It's really going to depend on your motherboard manufacturer's BIOS implementation.

My motherboard supports both Core i7 and Xeon LGA1150 Haswell processors, for example, as long as I am running a new enough version of the BIOS:
http://www.asus.com/us/support/CPU/1/45/GRYPHON_Z87/
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Re: Xeon E3 1230v3 Compatibility W/ H/Z87

Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:56 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
It's really going to depend on your motherboard manufacturer's BIOS implementation.

My motherboard supports both Core i7 and Xeon LGA1150 Haswell processors, for example, as long as I am running a new enough version of the BIOS:
http://www.asus.com/us/support/CPU/1/45/GRYPHON_Z87/


The next problem is making sure the motherboard ships with a new enough version of the BIOS to support your CPU. Some newer motherboards allow for 'headless' firmware updates without needing a CPU, but that's still a very rare thing.

On the bright side, the v1205 BIOS that supports the Xeon 1230v3 came out in July of '13, so should hopefully have propogated across the channel long since.
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:34 pm

You might want the 1245v3 instead if you intend to use the GPU, all 12x0 xeon gpus are disabled, 12x5 enabled. ARK has the details, though its not always correct the first time they add a cpu...ask me how I know :(

1225v3 can save a bit more if you don't need hyper-threading, its actually helpful to less programs than most people think. (there is no 1235)

Some consumer boards bios also act stupid with headless cpus, even if they have the microcode for the cpu itself. If you're looking for boards that tend to give intel the finger and work with "unsupported" configurations, consider asrock.

Random somewhat related fact: many i3s support ECC and are used in the C2xx server boards as there are no standard TDP dual core xeons.
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Re: Xeon E3 1230v3 Compatibility W/ H/Z87

Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:55 pm

Voldenuit wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
It's really going to depend on your motherboard manufacturer's BIOS implementation.

My motherboard supports both Core i7 and Xeon LGA1150 Haswell processors, for example, as long as I am running a new enough version of the BIOS:
http://www.asus.com/us/support/CPU/1/45/GRYPHON_Z87/


The next problem is making sure the motherboard ships with a new enough version of the BIOS to support your CPU. Some newer motherboards allow for 'headless' firmware updates without needing a CPU, but that's still a very rare thing.

On the bright side, the v1205 BIOS that supports the Xeon 1230v3 came out in July of '13, so should hopefully have propogated across the channel long since.


Do you happen to know which boards allow the 'headless' updates?
 
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Re: Xeon E3 1230v3 Compatibility W/ H/Z87

Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:21 pm

iamjsmith83 wrote:
Voldenuit wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
It's really going to depend on your motherboard manufacturer's BIOS implementation.

My motherboard supports both Core i7 and Xeon LGA1150 Haswell processors, for example, as long as I am running a new enough version of the BIOS:
http://www.asus.com/us/support/CPU/1/45/GRYPHON_Z87/


The next problem is making sure the motherboard ships with a new enough version of the BIOS to support your CPU. Some newer motherboards allow for 'headless' firmware updates without needing a CPU, but that's still a very rare thing.

On the bright side, the v1205 BIOS that supports the Xeon 1230v3 came out in July of '13, so should hopefully have propogated across the channel long since.


Do you happen to know which boards allow the 'headless' updates?


The ASUS Z87-Pro V that you originally listed supports USB BIOS Flashback.

Here's a guide on how to use it from their ROG page, but I believe the process is similar for their other boards.

EDIT: PS, also worth noting that many retail motherboards will list the BIOS version number in the white sidebar sticker on the box, so you can check the BIOS revision without even having to plug it in first.
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