Sure it does. Complaining about stuff led to the pilgrims moving to America. Nothing would ever change if people didn't complain about crap.
I'm not saying don't complain. Complaining is great. I wish people would complain to me more often so I can get feedback. Amazingly enough, I get few compliants. But choosing the right time and place to complain to maximize your point is critical, as I explain below.
I don't have a problem with the moderator, just the abuse of power. If we can't air out our dirty laundry in public than what's the point?
If you think the moderator is abusing power, then you have a problem with the moderator. As far as airing dirty laundry in public, we've all seen what always happens
when that is done. It's been my experience that 98% of the moderation in the forums is applicable and not abusive in power. In fact, I would tend to say that we usually under-moderate and let things get too far in most respects. So airing these things out in public is often quite detrimental to the forums. Now, this applies to using an existing thread to sound off against the powers that be. If you want to start a new thread
that has a specific complaint, then that's different. I'd rather that it be aired in a PM but I'm not going to forbid people from making general forum complaints. But don't drag down someone else's thread. However, starting a new thread every time you have a complaint against a moderator isn't very useful either.
If I prove him or you wrong in private would you post a thread stating so?
Yes, if your complaint has merit and the admins think that the moderator was in the wrong, then we'd certainly air that out in public. This isn't the spanish inquisition. I'm not going to cover for the mistakes we make.
At least allow me to defend myself in the same venue I'm being attacked in.
First of all, you aren't being attacked. You're being reprimanded. There's a difference. Secondly, I've been thinking about stuff like this for awhile now regarding chastising people in public and I haven't been able to find a nice "happy medium." On one hand, it tends to piss off the person receiving a reprimand and they take it personally so that lends weight to the idea that such things should be done in private. But on the other hand, such reprimands tend to set an example for all the other users so they know what's acceptable and what's not. It's a touchy issue and I don't see an easy "right" answer. In fact, I'm discussing that with the mods right now.
As a frequent reader and an in-frequent poster I have to admit that ZooTech called it EXACTLY. An opinion, not a fact, was asked and given, it is YOU Kevin that is wasting bandwidth!
See, it's posts like this that just make it clear to me that such things need to be aired out in a PM. This just confuses the whole issue and tends to put people on the defensive. You don't want me on the defensive. I consider myself very open minded and I always want to understand where people are coming from. But running a forum isn't easy. And I certainly can't make everyone happy all of the time. That's just not possible.
In this vein, further conversation about this in this thread is OVER. If you want to talk about this particular case of moderation, take it to PM. If you want to talk about abuses of moderator power in general, go start a new thread. If you want to post pictures of fat ugly ladies and call me a nazi admin, you know what to do
Captain Ned: My apologies for this huge segue in your thread.