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Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:23 am

Hi guys. I have some spares and some parts I need to buy for my main PC so I'm thinking about building a compact system for my living room (for browsing, watch video, casual gaming with controller, etc...). I sent my old motherboard for repair (busted BIOS), I have to upgrade my PSU to feed my 280X (500W isn't enough to overclock both CPU and GPU) and I have some other components I can use around the house.

Things I have:

MSI P67A-GD65 B3 ATX (Currently in repair shop for BIOS update)
MSI GTX560Ti Twinfrozr II OC (Problems with current drivers, works well with drivers from MSI)
Samsung 1TB F3 Spinpoint 7200
DDR3 2x2Gb Corsair 1333 CL9 (Currently in my sister-in-law PC which as 8GB total, it will run fine with only 4GB)
Antec Earthwatts EA-500D Green (Currently on my own PC for upgrade)
Stock Intel Cooler (from my current 3570K)

Things I have in mind:
http://www.nox-xtreme.com/en/product/media-hd/42/ 50€
Big enough for ATX motherboards, I think it will fit the GPU. The case has 450mm depth, the card measures 238mm and the PSU 140mm. I believe it will have a little room to spare.

http://www.blacknoise.com/en/products/it/13/Noiseblocker-NB_BlackSilentFan_60mm 20€
Maybe a replacement for the stock fans on the case if they are to loud.

Processor. My doubt. I'm trying to keep this on a tight budget, but I don't want to compromise anything. This isn't a gaming PC although with a GPU like the 560Ti It will run things fine on my 1080p TV. I think a dual core will be fine, even those without hyperthreading. What do you think?

Ethernet: I will bring it by power line from my room to the living room. I think I will achieve a better signal than a wireless repeater. It's cheaper than buying a wireless board and a repeater.

*EDIT I forgot about the keyboard. I'm thinking about this:
http://www.logitech.com/en-za/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r?crid=26 35€
Good enough for browsing, compact and useful to have in the living room.

Things I will add if needed:
DVD/Bluray Drive or any drive the future brings.

Am I missing anything?

Thank you in advance
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Re: Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:57 am

I have the K400 keyboard and it is fine for surfing the net, it's trackpad works well with 2 fingered scrolling and it is compact and does what it is supposed to do.

What i hate about it..... Typing on it is a pain the keys are too small for my liking along with a short travel distance leading to many mistakes. Even though I have the track pad I prefer a decent wireless mouse that will work on any surface. The MS 4000 wireless mouse "the one with the insanely bright blue led" is what I am using now and it works great.

If you plan on any gaming you will need a wireless mouse. If you plan on getting the k400 anyways you might want to get a wireless logitec mouse that uses the unifying connection USB dongle, this way you do not have to use up 2 usb ports. If you have plenty of USB ports then get any wireless mouse you want.

Have fun with your build.
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Re: Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:04 am

vargis14 wrote:
I have the K400 keyboard and it is fine for surfing the net, it's trackpad works well with 2 fingered scrolling and it is compact and does what it is supposed to do.

What i hate about it..... Typing on it is a pain the keys are too small for my liking along with a short travel distance leading to many mistakes. Even though I have the track pad I prefer a decent wireless mouse that will work on any surface. The MS 4000 wireless mouse "the one with the insanely bright blue led" is what I am using now and it works great.

If you plan on any gaming you will need a wireless mouse. If you plan on getting the k400 anyways you might want to get a wireless logitec mouse that uses the unifying connection USB dongle, this way you do not have to use up 2 usb ports. If you have plenty of USB ports then get any wireless mouse you want.

Have fun with your build.


The keyboard is only for the basic task like surfing web, the gaming will be with the controller(s). Yes, the motherboard has plenty of connectivity.
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Re: Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:09 am

You'll probably have heat issues using that case (only 2 - 60mm fans) with the GTX 560Ti (not to mention noise, even the aftermarket ones you listed might be quieter, but they probably won't move ANY air...its physics). Silverstone Grandia cases are great.
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Re: Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:11 am

DPete27 wrote:
You'll probably have heat issues using that case (only 2 - 60mm fans) with the GTX 560Ti. Silverstone Grandia cases are great.


And too expensive... I'm planing in undervolt the GPU and reduce the clocks to stock or lower, so I don't think I'll have a problem in that front.
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Re: Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:01 am

For the CPU I would get a decent Ivy Bridge Pentium, or maybe an i3 if you find some used or fire sale deal. The per-core performance is pretty terrific and they absolutely sip power. If you aren't gaming or doing computationally intensive work there's just no reason to go bigger.

The 560 Ti is a decent performer but it drinks power. Keep it for now and see what havoc Nvidia wreaks with the 20nm Maxwell parts late this year.

The Logitech K400 is pretty terrific for basic wireless usage. But don't try to play FPSes on it like I did... :oops:
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Re: Spare parts build

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:39 am

Concupiscence wrote:
For the CPU I would get a decent Ivy Bridge Pentium, or maybe an i3 if you find some used or fire sale deal. The per-core performance is pretty terrific and they absolutely sip power. If you aren't gaming or doing computationally intensive work there's just no reason to go bigger.

The 560 Ti is a decent performer but it drinks power. Keep it for now and see what havoc Nvidia wreaks with the 20nm Maxwell parts late this year.

The Logitech K400 is pretty terrific for basic wireless usage. But don't try to play FPSes on it like I did... :oops:


The board supports both Sandy and Ivy Bridge architectures, but as Sandy parts are now scarce in my shop I'll opt by an Ivy. I was watching the cheapest i3 duals with hyperthreading because the Pentiums seem to loose quite a bit of performance compared to the i3...

Yep, the keyboard won't be used to game of course, I'll be adding a Xbox controller to the one I have now.
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Re: Spare parts build

Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:26 pm

http://ark.intel.com/products/53426/Intel-Core-i3-2120-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz 90€

What do you guys think, is it enough? I was reading about the Pentiums withouth hyperthreading and they look much more weak that the i3's. Good call?
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Re: Spare parts build

Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:35 pm

That 65-watt 3.3 GHz Sandy Bridge Core ie-2120 is okay. For US$5 less, the 55-watt 3.4 GHz Ivy Bridge Core i3-3240 is slightly better.
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Re: Spare parts build

Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:57 pm

Jon1984 wrote:
Concupiscence wrote:
For the CPU I would get a decent Ivy Bridge Pentium, or maybe an i3 if you find some used or fire sale deal. The per-core performance is pretty terrific and they absolutely sip power. If you aren't gaming or doing computationally intensive work there's just no reason to go bigger.

The 560 Ti is a decent performer but it drinks power. Keep it for now and see what havoc Nvidia wreaks with the 20nm Maxwell parts late this year.

The Logitech K400 is pretty terrific for basic wireless usage. But don't try to play FPSes on it like I did... :oops:


The board supports both Sandy and Ivy Bridge architectures, but as Sandy parts are now scarce in my shop I'll opt by an Ivy. I was watching the cheapest i3 duals with hyperthreading because the Pentiums seem to loose quite a bit of performance compared to the i3...

Yep, the keyboard won't be used to game of course, I'll be adding a Xbox controller to the one I have now.



No i7-2600Ks? I'd imagine in the years since I bought mine, the price should've come down a bit. This thing a BEAST. Once I get a closed loop cooler for it, I'm gonna take it up to 4.5 GHz. One of the other nice things, is the 4 physical (8 with HT) cores.
 
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Re: Spare parts build

Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:57 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
That 65-watt 3.3 GHz Sandy Bridge Core ie-2120 is okay. For US$5 less, the 55-watt 3.4 GHz Ivy Bridge Core i3-3240 is slightly better.


Oh, I haven't notice that I've chose a Sandy part. I'll check the Ivy equivalent, it's the way to go.
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Re: Spare parts build

Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:58 am

Hz so good wrote:
Jon1984 wrote:
Concupiscence wrote:
For the CPU I would get a decent Ivy Bridge Pentium, or maybe an i3 if you find some used or fire sale deal. The per-core performance is pretty terrific and they absolutely sip power. If you aren't gaming or doing computationally intensive work there's just no reason to go bigger.

The 560 Ti is a decent performer but it drinks power. Keep it for now and see what havoc Nvidia wreaks with the 20nm Maxwell parts late this year.

The Logitech K400 is pretty terrific for basic wireless usage. But don't try to play FPSes on it like I did... :oops:


The board supports both Sandy and Ivy Bridge architectures, but as Sandy parts are now scarce in my shop I'll opt by an Ivy. I was watching the cheapest i3 duals with hyperthreading because the Pentiums seem to loose quite a bit of performance compared to the i3...

Yep, the keyboard won't be used to game of course, I'll be adding a Xbox controller to the one I have now.



No i7-2600Ks? I'd imagine in the years since I bought mine, the price should've come down a bit. This thing a BEAST. Once I get a closed loop cooler for it, I'm gonna take it up to 4.5 GHz. One of the other nice things, is the 4 physical (8 with HT) cores.


I can still find the 2600K but this is just an HTPC, I don't need that kind of power, I already have a 3570K on my main machine :wink:
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