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Pancake wrote:What a bizarre world we live in. AMD, a gigantic engineering company worth less than the purchase price of Minecraft or Oculus Rift...
Pancake wrote:What a bizarre world we live in. AMD, a gigantic engineering company worth less than the purchase price of Minecraft or Oculus Rift...
chuckula wrote:The breakup rumour has been denied by actual people at AMD: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/2086 ... ies-rumors
Note that it is actually a denial and not just a "no comment" type of non-response. I usually believe official statements from AMD... usually.
superjawes wrote:It seems like something that a company in this kind of crisis should consider. They might deny it now, but I wouldn't be surprised if this WAS something semi-official within AMD to figure out what each part is worth in case things go tango uniform (or if investors force their hand).
From a business perspective, I think that breaking AMD up is possibly the best solution to "fix" everything. The GPU side has been strong (ish) for a while. An infusion of cash/stability and they'll be able to trade blows much more effectively with Nvidia. On the CPU side, I don't think AMD can ever compete with Intel in the desktop space, at least not without a long and expensive development process. But that might be the saving grace of a spinoff.
Regardless of which business unit of AMD we're talking about, they all need cash in order to become profitable in the long run, and unless the GPU business does something spectacular to outperform Nvidia at all levels, I don't see AMD turning a profit to supply said cash.
Jigar wrote:Sometimes you have to wonder why the rumor was floating just before their flag ship card debut... Someone seems hellbent to sabotage their sales.
Chrispy_ wrote:Jigar wrote:Sometimes you have to wonder why the rumor was floating just before their flag ship card debut... Someone seems hellbent to sabotage their sales.
+1
Nvidia play so dirty that two people mudwrestling in a cesspit would still be playing a cleaner game.
K-L-Waster wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:Jigar wrote:Sometimes you have to wonder why the rumor was floating just before their flag ship card debut... Someone seems hellbent to sabotage their sales.
+1
Nvidia play so dirty that two people mudwrestling in a cesspit would still be playing a cleaner game.
Let's not get carried away. The people who buy graphics cards and the people who get concerned about company breakups probably don't have a lot of overlap. (Even if you do follow both, really, are you going to avoid buying a Fury card just because the graphics division might get spun off into a separate company? Out of all the reasons there might be to choose a specific card, that seems like a particularly non-influential one.)
I also find it instructive that in the Reuters article, NVidia was not even mentioned as a competitor. To the business press, it's Intel that matters: AMD only matters insofar as they are a competitor. GPUs aren't even really on the business press's radar.
K-L-Waster wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:Jigar wrote:Sometimes you have to wonder why the rumor was floating just before their flag ship card debut... Someone seems hellbent to sabotage their sales.
+1
Nvidia play so dirty that two people mudwrestling in a cesspit would still be playing a cleaner game.
Let's not get carried away. The people who buy graphics cards and the people who get concerned about company breakups probably don't have a lot of overlap. (Even if you do follow both, really, are you going to avoid buying a Fury card just because the graphics division might get spun off into a separate company? Out of all the reasons there might be to choose a specific card, that seems like a particularly non-influential one.)
I also find it instructive that in the Reuters article, NVidia was not even mentioned as a competitor. To the business press, it's Intel that matters: AMD only matters insofar as they are a competitor. GPUs aren't even really on the business press's radar.
Jigar wrote:I understand what you are saying, but recently just weeks before Fury X's launch almost all well known forums have new threads that are complaining about AMD drivers and their update cycle (this brain wash has been going on since years and has been outright blown out of proportion), AMD breakup, AMD crappy CPUs, than there are fury X's specific threads like the lack of HDMI 2.0, HBM 4GB not enough etc. If these doesn't look Anti-marketing tactics by competition to you than i think you haven't been long enough in corporate world.
Jigar wrote:than there are fury X's specific threads like the lack of HDMI 2.0