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techguy wrote:Maybe I'm an elitist but a GTX 950 hardly qualifies a computer as being capable of playing games. The engineering of that system is very cool though.
Chuckaluphagus wrote:Yes, you're an elitist. A 750 Ti will run most games, even new ones, well at 1920x1080 and medium graphics settings*. A 950 is is going to run TF2/Counterstrike/DOTA2/Rocket League/Overwatch/Hearthstone very well for most people. "Most people" aren't the sort of computer geeks who post in tech forums, remember.
techguy wrote:Chuckaluphagus wrote:Yes, you're an elitist. A 750 Ti will run most games, even new ones, well at 1920x1080 and medium graphics settings*. A 950 is is going to run TF2/Counterstrike/DOTA2/Rocket League/Overwatch/Hearthstone very well for most people. "Most people" aren't the sort of computer geeks who post in tech forums, remember.
There's a medium for graphics settings? I've only ever seen High or above
I kid. I know it's enough for most people. In all honesty, mid-level graphics cards are great options for the majority of gamers. I'm just glad I don't have to be one of them
Chuckaluphagus wrote:I really don't like the idea of 200W being passively dissipated on someone's desk. That's a hell of a lot of heat, I'd honestly be concerned about the external surfaces becoming painful to touch.
Redocbew wrote:I'm still not sold on the advantage of being completely passive. For an industrial setting, or a PC in some other kind of harsh environment it makes sense, but for the average desktop PC it just seems a lot easier to use one or two big, slow fans. It's still going to be nearly silent, and having even a little forced airflow often helps a lot with the heat transfer.
DPete27 wrote:Jeebus!!! The case alone is $750.
whm1974 wrote:DPete27 wrote:Jeebus!!! The case alone is $750.
Yeah we could build a whole system with a 950and SSD for that much.
just brew it! wrote:I was serious about my "audiophile syndrome" reference. They're far worse. As evidence, I present this: http://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio- ... tegory=270
Captain Ned wrote:just brew it! wrote:I was serious about my "audiophile syndrome" reference. They're far worse. As evidence, I present this: http://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio- ... tegory=270
And here's a $150,000 turntable to hang it on, and that doesn't even include a tonearm.
http://newatlas.com/one-degree-of-freed ... ble/20215/
just brew it! wrote:Captain Ned wrote:just brew it! wrote:I was serious about my "audiophile syndrome" reference. They're far worse. As evidence, I present this: http://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio- ... tegory=270
And here's a $150,000 turntable to hang it on, and that doesn't even include a tonearm.
http://newatlas.com/one-degree-of-freed ... ble/20215/
The phono cartridge still wins in $/pound...
(And to be fair, needledoctor.com is actually a quite reasonable vendor, as long as you don't venture into OCD territory... I've done business with them in the past, and consider myself to be a satisfied customer.)
whm1974 wrote:Good grief, are people with perfect hearing even able to tell the difference?
just brew it! wrote:(And to be fair, needledoctor.com is actually a quite reasonable vendor, as long as you don't venture into OCD territory... I've done business with them in the past, and consider myself to be a satisfied customer.)
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:Good grief, are people with perfect hearing even able to tell the difference?
Depends on your definitions here. Do you mean they can really tell the difference, or do you mean they have convinced themselves they can tell the difference (placebo effect)? And assuming there's a real difference, this is before you take into account the "different does not necessarily mean more accurate" debate, or whether the same effect could be achieved with some sort of (more cost-effective) post-processing.
I apologize for dragging the thread off on this tangent; a fanless case will obviously reduce noise levels, so it's not a purely placebo effect. The question is, how many people will consider that to be worth $750?
whm1974 wrote:I wouldn't even if I had lots of money to burn. And if I had that, I wouldn't be looking at a Nvidia 950 video card for gaming either.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:I wouldn't even if I had lots of money to burn. And if I had that, I wouldn't be looking at a Nvidia 950 video card for gaming either.
Different PC users have different priorities. That's why many of us build our own, and why many of us are on this forum. I'm sure my "ideal" build would be significantly different from yours, even if we took budget out of the equation.
CB5000 wrote:There is still air flowing through the pipes and heatsink to cool the system. Eventually that will still collect dust depending on how dusty your house/environment is. With no forced air flow, I suspect that even a low density of dust will significantly impact cooling performance.
coolflame57 wrote:going back to price....
Since when did 32 gb of ram cost freaking $584?
Krogoth wrote:coolflame57 wrote:going back to price....
Since when did 32 gb of ram cost freaking $584?
If you talking about 32GiB DiMMs, then that's pretty normal. They are geared towards the datacenter and enterprise markets which a need for such DIMMs and are willing to pay the steep premiums for them.
In the link that the OP sent, I added 32 GiB of ram. I looked here and found a 350% markup on the price that CompuLab charges for the same 32 GiB.
Furthermore, if you look here, then CDW has a 1x32GiB stick for a measly $205.
coolflame57 wrote:Krogoth wrote:coolflame57 wrote:going back to price....
Since when did 32 gb of ram cost freaking $584?
If you talking about 32GiB DiMMs, then that's pretty normal. They are geared towards the datacenter and enterprise markets which a need for such DIMMs and are willing to pay the steep premiums for them.
In the link that the OP sent, I added 32 GiB of ram. I looked here and found a 350% markup on the price that CompuLab charges for the same 32 GiB.
Furthermore, if you look here, then CDW has a 1x32GiB stick for a measly $205.
whm1974 wrote:So I guess it's safe to say that very few people are buying CompuLab fanless systems?