jihadjoe wrote:Maybe you just need to drop the brightness some more. According to TFTCentral's review your monitor would be outputting 100nits at 20% brightness, and is still close to 70nits even down to 10%.
It seems the W-LED backlight Dell used is just really effin bright! If you need more help then run a program like F-Lux to make the colors a bit warmer which could be easier still on the eyes.
Kougar wrote:Could be the brightness, Dell has always offered crazy-bright displays. Moving it closer will only make the brightness stronger though.
Have you verified it is displaying at 144hz? If the problem continues you can drop it to 120 or 90hz and see if that helps any. Especially if you are playing games where the GPU cannot maintain a steady framerate.
Acidicheartburn wrote:I actually moved the monitor closer to me (back again at about arm's length) and it seems better, but it's just super close (pretty much in the middle of my desk now).
jihadjoe wrote:OP's monitor is good in that regard. Pure DC voltage to control backlight, and absolutely no flicker at any brightness level. I think my first reply should have a link to the TFTCentral review.
Edit: guess it didn't. Link here http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm
synthtel2 wrote:Most monitors' color temperature seems to err on the cool side from the factory, and TFT Central says this is one of them. F.lux / Redshift / etc would be the heavy-duty ways to fix that, but they usually aren't so good for precision and small tweaks. A couple ticks of blue reduction in the monitor's OSD might help significantly, especially if it's still on the edge of being too bright in general.
I don't know enough of the theory behind it to even say if it's relevant to your panel, but my EDG 27 is very harsh on the eyes when displaying whites at 50 contrast (especially certain patterns of horizontal lines), and the problem disappears at 40 contrast. It's apparently a strobing problem (coming from the panel rather than the backlight), and the effects were something like what you're describing. If it's still a big problem in gaming, it can't be the exact same problem I had, but I think something along these lines is more likely than strictly a brightness or color problem if you can't even use it for half an hour at 15% brightness.
Acidicheartburn wrote:6a and 6b are a nightmare to look at. I wouldn't say any of it is flickering except when I scroll the page up or down.
synthtel2 wrote:Acidicheartburn wrote:6a and 6b are a nightmare to look at. I wouldn't say any of it is flickering except when I scroll the page up or down.
Yeah, that's the same thing I ran into then. At 144 Hz they don't obviously flicker, but I guess it's still slow enough to be a big problem.
Reducing contrast fixed it for me, but I don't recall enough of the theory to be much help beyond that. Surely someone else here knows more about it.
Acidicheartburn wrote:Could there be something wrong with the way this screen is working that could be causing me eyestrain? I still get the eyestrain even when looking at static images. The more I look at this screen the more kind of odd it seems. I'm not sure if I'm imagining it, or that it's some visual quirk of eyes in general, but if I look really closely at the pixels on the screen they almost sort of shimmer or wiggle. I might even describe it as the pixels are sort of dancing, but it's just so subtle, especially because of the small size of the pixels at this resolution, that I'm not sure it's real or if I'm imagining it. I can't really explain it well.
DancinJack wrote:When I get a new monitor, I generally start with TFTCentral's calibration settings and adjust from there. It's not going to be EXACT because each panel is a tiny bit different, but IMO it's a better place than guessing. For your particular model it looks like they used....
(For reference, default brightness is 75 lol OH GOD MY EYES)
Monitor OSD Option Default Settings
Preset mode Custom Color
RGB 97, 99, 96
You can also try their ICC profile(s) for things that actually use them: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/icc_profile ... 2716dg.icc (warning: direct download)
TFTCentra's ICC database: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/ic ... e_database
Acidicheartburn wrote:I already used TFT Central's review.
DancinJack wrote:Acidicheartburn wrote:I already used TFT Central's review.
I dunno, dude. Your monitor isn't particularly bright or anything. I have heard the colors are pretty decent for a TN, too. Maybe try hanging out at 1080p and see if it's the upped resolution that is your issue? FWIW, I know you have moved the distance to screen around a bit but maybe resolution will help since nothing else has thus far. Have you messed with the pixel response time in the OSD?
Maybe RMA it to see if there is something really weird going on with your particular panel (though I don't really think this is the issue)?
Acidicheartburn wrote:This screen is far brighter than my old one. Even at 50% brightness it's crazy bright. Jihadjoe seems to think it's a pretty bright screen at even moderate settings (https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=121554&view=unread#p1395952). The colors are certainly better than my old screen but it's a very cold look IMO. I turned down the blue and upped the red a bit to warm up the image some. I tried 1080p on this screen and that didn't help, and only made it look like crap (why can't someone make a screen that doesn't look awful at non-native resolutions????).
If you read TFTCentral's review a bit more you'll see that changing the response time to the only other setting (Fast) barely decreases the response time and introduces some pretty bad overshoot.
I think I'm going to return this screen and hold out for something with a fast VA panel to go on sale.