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Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:25 am

https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/new ... er-the-air

I can't wait to have a Ryden battery in my smartphone!

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/smartph ... ion-future

Unbelievably cool facts in the above article. Like Lithium accounts for only 2% of a Lithium-ion battery. And Sony will be shipping Lithium-sulfur batteries in 2020 with almost 5 times (https://oxisenergy.com/) Lithium-ion's battery capacity. Woohoo!!!
 
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:06 am

"but using lasers..."

"the future of batteries..."

"Scientists at Rice University..."

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"that could soon change..."

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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:59 am

"Soon" ™

Awesome new battery tech is only one step closer to reality than the promise of working fusion reactors. Proving that a concept is acually possible and making it viable enough to replace the incumbent technology are two very different things.
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:09 am

...and that's assuming Apple, Samsung, and others wouldn't just make the device X amount thinner with the same overall capacity.
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:54 am

Intel Technology Journal, 2002:
"Extreme Ultra-Violet (EUV) lithography is being developed for 45nm generation integrated circuits. There has been excellent progress on EUV lithography in the past two years. The feasibility of manufacturing EUV optics has been demonstrated. EUV masks have been produced by several mask shops. EUV resists are available, since DUV resists are capable of EUV imaging. The EUV LLC (Limited Liability Company) has demonstrated that all the components of EUV technology can be integrated into a fully functional, 0.10NA, prototype EUV exposure tool (Figure 7), which can pattern 70nm features (Figure 8 ). The success of the prototype tool demonstrates that sub-50nm lithography will be possible with first-generation, production EUV exposure tools and that ~20nm lithography should be possible with second-generation EUV tools."
http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys312/workshops/w10c/chips/vol6iss2_art06.pdf
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:22 am

Redocbew wrote:
...and that's assuming Apple, Samsung, and others wouldn't just make the device X amount thinner with the same overall capacity.


I think we reached 'peak-thin' in 2017 or 2018. Smartphones, laptops, and tablets became so thin that people stopped caring about thickness and weight - they started caring about fragility and comfort in the hand.

2019 is all about bezel-free, I think, and that's going to need some thickness in order to remain holdable in your hand. So, for now (at least), device and battery anorexia is on hold.
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:32 am

The "form over function" idiots at Apple took improvements in battery thickness and weight to make the back of my iPhone 8+ out of heavier, thicker and more fragile glass in place of durable plastic or composite. :roll:
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:56 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
The "form over function" idiots at Apple took improvements in battery thickness and weight to make the back of my iPhone 8+ out of heavier, thicker and more fragile glass in place of durable plastic or composite. :roll:


I would say that the "idiots" at Apple made that decision to boost their Apple Care revenue...
 
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:08 am

Chrispy_ wrote:
"Soon" ™

Awesome new battery tech is only one step closer to reality than the promise of working fusion reactors. Proving that a concept is acually possible and making it viable enough to replace the incumbent technology are two very different things.


https://www.engadget.com/2015/12/18/son ... batteries/

My bets are on Sony. They brought Lithium-ion batteries to market in 1991 and I don't see why they won't be able to make history again.
 
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:14 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
The "form over function" idiots at Apple took improvements in battery thickness and weight to make the back of my iPhone 8+ out of heavier, thicker and more fragile glass in place of durable plastic or composite. :roll:

And enable wireless charging...
 
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:22 am

I'd be thrilled to trade another mm of thickness and a little more weight for better battery life. Instead we get the "let's make everything as thin as possible, eliminate headphone jacks and memory card slots, etc." trend. :roll:
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:11 am

Something I have railed against for some time. Along with your phone purchase usually comes a case to protect the fragile little device. A big far Otter case usually. Why not instead make the phone the size and ruggedness of the Otter case and shove in a nice battery and a decent set of antennas with room to spare?

Oh wait, that would be "ugly" and likely cost less and perceived value would be lower.
 
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:49 am

Usacomp2k3 wrote:
Enable wireless charging...
That’s an argument against aluminum or magnesium, but not against non-conductive plastics and composites (or even wood).
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:51 pm

just brew it! wrote:
I'd be thrilled to trade another mm of thickness and a little more weight for better battery life. Instead we get the "let's make everything as thin as possible, eliminate headphone jacks and memory card slots, etc." trend. :roll:

Then just don't buy the phone's that do that. I hear LG has some good offerings these days.
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Usacomp2k3 wrote:
Enable wireless charging...
That’s an argument against aluminum or magnesium, but not against non-conductive plastics and composites (or even wood).

That's a good point. Can you get the same strength out of the same thickness on plastic vs glass? My materials science classes were way too long ago.
 
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Re: Awesome battery technologies to look forward to

Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:41 pm

liquidsquid wrote:
Why not instead make the phone the size and ruggedness of the Otter case and shove in a nice battery and a decent set of antennas with room to spare?


But but but but how would we prove our individuality by choosing just the right case?
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