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I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:21 am

My well aged i3-3225 consolation system has been muted by MS Win 10 x64. (Consolation system, a PC built from inadequate parts to console the builder after learning that even hardware reviewers cannot be trusted. ' … Intel built-in graphics are adequate for ...' replacement by a 650 Ti boost after a better system has upgraded to a GTX 980.)

Muted? Yeah, the built-in Realtek ALC662 HD Audio is no longer recognized by Win 10.

I tried downloading drivers from Realtek and Lenovo. Same results. Device Manager only sees the nVidia sound device on the 650 Ti. which only runs sound out through the HDMI cable. So my Dell display would produce fine sound IF it had the capability.

Which brings us to the subject of this tale of woe.

Fellow sufferers, please share with me your knowledge of CHEAP PCI, or PCIe, audio solutions. My Asrock B75M Rev 2.0 has two open slots. One PCI slot and one PCIe 2.0 x16 slot. I'm running Windows 10 x64. This PC sees admin use and lite chat and gaming. The users are satisfied other than the lack of audio.

I looked at cheap core upgrades and they were not cheap. Maybe I should search again and specify DDR3 system boards.

Can anyone report a positive experience? And, PLEASE, stay with Windows 10 x64. I am not going LINUX. I am not backsliding to an earlier edition of Windows.

I'm adding sound to a good enuff PC that has been unfairly abandoned by it's OS of choice.
 
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:29 am

TBH your best bet might be something USB based.

Maybe this: https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-70 ... 06XBZ38ZJ/
or even this: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External- ... 01N905VOY/

Cheap enough that it doesn't hurt to try.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:25 pm

I’ve got to agree. I’m usually using a USB SoundBlaster Play3 with my ultrabook these days because the built-in headphone jack has seen too much abuse in the past 7 years.

The Creative dashboard may justify the SoundBlaster over some cheap and cheerful alternative.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:39 pm

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The Creative dashboard may justify the SoundBlaster over some cheap and cheerful alternative.

Yeah, if you'd like something beyond the basic Windows controls that could be worth the price delta. You might also get slightly better fidelity than a cheap no-name unit. OTOH it is entirely possible that they are both generic C-Media reference designs internally... :lol:

FWIW I've bought a few UGREEN products in the past (though not the specific one I linked), and IME they seem to work as advertised and have reasonable build quality. They appear to inhabit a middle ground between the established tier 1 brands and generic junk.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:35 am

BadSweetums wrote:
Muted? Yeah, the built-in Realtek ALC662 HD Audio is no longer recognized by Win 10.

I tried downloading drivers from Realtek and Lenovo. Same results. Device Manager only sees the nVidia sound device on the 650 Ti. which only runs sound out through the HDMI cable. So my Dell display would produce fine sound IF it had the capability.


To clarify, does the device literally not appear in Device Manager? Or, does Windows insist on using the NVidia sound instead?

I used to have the latter issue every time I reinstalled the NVidia drivers (it was convinced that the audio had to go through the NVidia no matter what I set the Default to...). Eventually I got around it by explicitly disabling the NVidia sound in Device Manager. That would let me use the onboard Realtek sound.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:19 am

The Realtek sound device has disappeared from device manager and cannot be found by rescanning for hardware changes.
 
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:43 am

just brew it! wrote:
TBH your best bet might be something USB based.

Maybe this: https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-70 ... 06XBZ38ZJ/
or even this: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External- ... 01N905VOY/

Cheap enough that it doesn't hurt to try.

Nice little device. My favorite part (aside from the price) is the "no drivers needed" part, as sound devices tend to outlive the rest of the system and/or the OS they were originally released under.
 
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:25 am

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The Realtek sound device has disappeared from device manager and cannot be found by rescanning for hardware changes.

This sounds like the sound chip itself has died. You should at least be getting some sort of complaint about a missing driver if the OS no longer supports it.

Any chance the onboard audio got disabled in the BIOS somehow?

Try booting a Linux live distro and see if Linux recognizes the codec. If Linux still sees it, then you've got a software problem; if Linux doesn't see it either, the sound chip is likely dead.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:30 am

Are you absolutely sure that the device is not just disabled?

Also try driver booster from iobit and see if it can get the right driver for you.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:11 pm

I'd be surprised if that chipset is unsupported in Win10; either the device is dead on the board or it was accidentally disable in the BIOS somehow. If it's not the latter, I second the USB suggestion. It's my go-to solution for anyone having trouble with sound cards.
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:24 pm

I was about to recommend a Topping external amplifier - I have a TP30 driving the kitchen stereo - only to find out that they're now much more expensive on Amazon. However, there are similar alternatives that you can connect to your computer via USB, where they'll show up as an audio device, and then can drive bookshelf speakers and/or headphones very well.
 
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:53 pm

Thank you all very much. Your inputs made me ready to shutdown a $120 bluetooth headset purchase with an immediate satisfactory response.

I said no way to the BT headset. I can get a USB sound card from my local Beast By for much less.

$22 later and "we" are noisy again thanks to a Roccat Juke 7.1 audio dongle. It could have been cheaper online; but it could not have been more timely.

Reviews are positive, Life is good,

BTW, I was shocked to discover that my local store only carries the Roccat and Firefly devices. No Creative Labs or other solutions. Maybe demand is so low that management hopes customers will just replace their platform instead of their pieces parts hardware.
 
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Re: I need a Windows 10 x64 Sound Card

Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:06 am

BadSweetums wrote:
$22 later and "we" are noisy again thanks to a Roccat Juke 7.1 audio dongle.


Very nice choice. I plan on getting one too due to the stellar surround sound experienced by reviewers. Great value for the price.

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