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Re: Skill tree upgrade path

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:06 pm
by Ryu Connor
just brew it! wrote:
Yknow what makes *me* sad? The fact that so many people simply accept that migrating your existing OS installation to a new boot drive is potentially a major ordeal. There's no technical reason It *needs* to be this way, and yet we've come to view it as normal. IMO it verges on a geek version of Stockholm Syndrome.


Microsoft provides the tools to make it easy, but everyone seems to want a third party solution instead. Ones that often use block based backups. So long as that stays the norm, it looks like it is going to remain a messy affair.

Some of it also stems from the way XP used to be. I don't think people have realized that Vista forward are not just XP with a pretty skin.

Re: Skill tree upgrade path

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:17 pm
by just brew it!
Ryu Connor wrote:
Some of it also stems from the way XP used to be. I don't think people have realized that Vista forward are not just XP with a pretty skin.

I'll admit to having a bit of that bias myself. However, I've seen enough brain-dead Windows 7 partitioning schemes (HP laptops *cough* *cough*) to believe that we're not out of the woods yet. Granted, this may be more HP's stupidity than Microsoft's...

Re: Skill tree upgrade path

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:07 pm
by auxy
Ryu Connor wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
Yknow what makes *me* sad? The fact that so many people simply accept that migrating your existing OS installation to a new boot drive is potentially a major ordeal. There's no technical reason It *needs* to be this way, and yet we've come to view it as normal. IMO it verges on a geek version of Stockholm Syndrome.


Microsoft provides the tools to make it easy, but everyone seems to want a third party solution instead. Ones that often use block based backups. So long as that stays the norm, it looks like it is going to remain a messy affair.

Some of it also stems from the way XP used to be. I don't think people have realized that Vista forward are not just XP with a pretty skin.

But why bother? I mean it takes like what, ten minutes to reinstall Windows 8? It's not like it's a problem or anything. Anyway, it's nice to freshen up occasionally. °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖°

Re: Skill tree upgrade path

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:55 pm
by Flying Fox
auxy wrote:
Ryu Connor wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
Yknow what makes *me* sad? The fact that so many people simply accept that migrating your existing OS installation to a new boot drive is potentially a major ordeal. There's no technical reason It *needs* to be this way, and yet we've come to view it as normal. IMO it verges on a geek version of Stockholm Syndrome.


Microsoft provides the tools to make it easy, but everyone seems to want a third party solution instead. Ones that often use block based backups. So long as that stays the norm, it looks like it is going to remain a messy affair.

Some of it also stems from the way XP used to be. I don't think people have realized that Vista forward are not just XP with a pretty skin.

But why bother? I mean it takes like what, ten minutes to reinstall Windows 8? It's not like it's a problem or anything. Anyway, it's nice to freshen up occasionally. °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖°

There are some users who have literally hundreds of applications they need to reinstall and reconfigure. Not all of them provide the feature to export/import settings. And some of those apps are not exactly small. For example, the latest Visual Studio (2010 and 2012) takes almost an hour to install (may be less with an SSD, but still it is a big suite of apps). A lot of customizations may have been applied to those apps, like window positions, installed plugins, etc. It can take days if not weeks to reinstall+reconfigure all that with a brand new install.

Re: Skill tree upgrade path

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:06 pm
by auxy
Flying Fox wrote:
There are some users who have literally hundreds of applications they need to reinstall and reconfigure. Not all of them provide the feature to export/import settings. And some of those apps are not exactly small. For example, the latest Visual Studio (2010 and 2012) takes almost an hour to install (may be less with an SSD, but still it is a big suite of apps). A lot of customizations may have been applied to those apps, like window positions, installed plugins, etc. It can take days if not weeks to reinstall+reconfigure all that with a brand new install.
Ohh. I guess that makes sense. I install everything portable, so it's not a problem for me to wipe my OS drive and reinstall. ^^ Even Steam can be used portably.