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GB and Newegg both determine the sale price, but I'm pretty sure it's Gigabyte behind the free mainboard promotion. That's usually some promo deal the manufacturer works out with the retailer.

I just visited the local Altex shop. Sales rep told me they received a big GPU shipment Thursday to fix the hole in their shelves. Part of it included 50 1070/1080 class cards, which they sold all of by the next day. Most powerful GPUs left on the shelves were some $280 1060 3GB cards. Edit: Looks like that's the going rate on ebay for them.

I was going to sit out this generation of cards at some of the prices from the start of bit coin crap... now I'm even more sure of it. I saw newegg selling 6 packs of RX 580s............... What the hell . That seems so wrong.

Third party sellers were doing the six-pack thing during the previous bubble, it's nothing new. But with AMD cards so hard to get they can probably make a killing just bundling them into one pack.

Convert wrote:

Gigabyte isn't dictating the marked up prices though, are they?

Probably not. The OEM has long since been paid whatever their asking price was once a deal like that shows up. There's no way of knowing really if Gigabyte made a deal at straight wholesale(usually 50% off retail), or for some other amount. If there's an existing contract in place, then Gigabyte would also be stuck with whatever pricing was negotiated regardless of any crypto-inspired shenanigans that have taken place since. There might be a way to renegotiate, but given how quickly this has all been changing I doubt that would do much good.

I've seen the six packs around also. 5k for six 1070's is an even worse deal than buying at the already-bonkers price tag for just one.

Those GB 1080 Ti's sold out in six hours. Going to be a surge of Aorus X370 Gaming boards on ebay by the end of the week I'm sure.

I was watching a 1070ti on amazon.caéé it was $629, but not in stock.. checked this morning.. $1929! wow, just wow

Newegg is officially selling 1060 6GB cards for $505. Does come with a motherboard

this is really weird.
I could drop by a local bestbuy with prices for 1060 with 300 CAD tops... (that's like 220 USD?)
I don't touch that stuff because 1060 is just a glorified 970, which I have two....
edit: I mean inside the brick and mortar store, not online....
Although, it does say "sold out" online....

I should sell my R9 Fury sometime. It might fund an 8700K at these GPU prices.

Kougar wrote:

Newegg is officially selling 1060 6GB cards for $505. Does come with a motherboard

That is just wrong...

Darthutos wrote:

this is really weird.
I could drop by a local bestbuy with prices for 1060 with 300 CAD tops... (that's like 220 USD?)
I don't touch that stuff because 1060 is just a glorified 970, which I have two....
edit: I mean inside the brick and mortar store, not online....
Although, it does say "sold out" online....

The only thing a GTX 1060 6 gb would do for me is to give me some more ram when running vr... Yeah, if I click on the "in store" button at Best Buy all I get is "sorry, that item isn't available from a store within 250 miles.." Ok, but what about 500... Maybe a thousand? Look, I've got some frequent flyer miles...

Maybe there's a light at the end of this tunnel after all.

Concupiscence wrote:

Maybe there's a light at the end of this tunnel after all.

Is there a load horn sounding... Possibly rushing air associated with it and a clacking noise...

Concupiscence wrote:

Maybe there's a light at the end of this tunnel after all.

Excellent news. There will be a new moon at 8:17PM CT tonight.......perhaps if we all go outside and frantically perform Double Dream Hands, the downward trend will turn into a full meltdown. It certainly can't hurt to try.

This plus RAM prices is really putting a crimp in my desire to build a new machine

Kougar wrote:

I just visited the local Altex shop. Sales rep told me they received a big GPU shipment Thursday to fix the hole in their shelves. Part of it included 50 1070/1080 class cards, which they sold all of by the next day. Most powerful GPUs left on the shelves were some $280 1060 3GB cards. Edit: Looks like that's the going rate on ebay for them.

As long as the Ebay prices are significantly greater than MSRP, store personnel and their friends are going to be snapping up the cards and reselling them on Ebay and/or Craigslist. This is why you see so many "New in Box" cards their these days.

If I owned a retailer, I'd be upset about this, since it leads customers to online sources for everything, rather than allow the building of customer relationships, but most seem not to care.

Brick and mortar only retailers have had it rough for a while now. If I had to guess I'd say the crypto-craze has probably been good for them since they get to sell as many cards as they can to miners instead of just a few here and there to people who for some reason can't wait a few days to get it from Amazon.

Edit: I are good speller

The crypto currencies already halved their losses since that ars technica article was published. There's not any point trying to gauge anything from single-day trading in unregulated markets.

I think the B&M retailers are partially happy because they are marking up product as well. Not to crazy ebay prices, but still higher than they would've sold them in a normal market. Newegg is officially selling 3GB 1060's for $400, and 6GB models for $500. Sure they toss in a motherboard, but Newegg itself is already selling those on eBay anyway.

Kougar wrote:

The crypto currencies already halved their losses since that ars technica article was published. There's not any point trying to gauge anything from single-day trading in unregulated markets.

You can surmise that it is ridiculously volatile and completely unsuitable for use as a currency. If enough people realize this the hype should die down.

just brew it! wrote:

It is ridiculously volatile and completely unsuitable for use as a currency. If enough people realize this the hype should die down.

Counter-point: http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/09/ ... ating.html

H.L. Mencken wrote:

No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.

just brew it! wrote:

Kougar wrote:

The crypto currencies already halved their losses since that ars technica article was published. There's not any point trying to gauge anything from single-day trading in unregulated markets.

You can surmise that it is ridiculously volatile and completely unsuitable for use as a currency. If enough people realize this the hype should die down.

It's completely suited for the 1%ers to bypass capital controls, launder money, tax evasion, pump and dump a new altcoin etc.

And also, governments tend to deal with new tech at a glacial pace, especially if there isn't any clear and immediate danger. If somebody like the FTC couldn't be bother with blatant price fixing and obvious MLMs, good luck having any government agency or lawmakers deal with cryptocoins.

Whatever it is, it's bad news for PC gamers hoping for devs to push the limits of hardware. The closest you can get right now to a gaming card at MSRP is a $150 Gigabyte RX 560 4GB (1024SP version).

This may cause a glut in the CPU market.

Made a strategic error over the weekend.

My 27" 1080p monitor died about a month ago, and I've been limping along with old 19" 1280x1080. I finally splurged and bought a 27" Acer Predator 2560 x 1440.

I got it yesterday, only to realize that 1) it has no legacy DVI connections (Yah, DVI gone!!), and
2) my GTX 570 only has a mini-HDMI.

Welp. I tried a DVI-to HDMI adapater...nope. Then a solid cable mini hdmi to hdmi cable...nope.

So about 10pm last time I'm desperately scouring the internet for a GPU. Holy lord! From October-December of last year prices have skyrocketed and availabilty is gone. There are a lot of cards for 3x the price available, and other places nothing but pages of "Out of Stock."

I ended up buying a slightly used variant on Ebay for a small markup.

I hate you miners right now

End User wrote:

This may cause a glut in the CPU market.

I doubt it. The overwhelming majority of CPUs have iGPUs and are being sold in bulk by OEMs. The only platform that *need* dGPUs are Socket 2066 chips, Ryzens, Threadrippers and Epycs. The bulk of Socket 2066 chips, Ryzens and Epycs are paired with bargin basement dGPUs that aren't affected by the bubble in OEM SKUs. Threadrippers are really the only chips that may see a slight increase but AMD has Ryzen 2 and Ryzen APUs around the corner.

FYI, the bubble is already bursting as we speak.

dashbarron wrote:

Welp. I tried a DVI-to HDMI adapater...nope. Then a solid cable mini hdmi to hdmi cable...nope.

That seems odd, I've done mini-DP and mini-HDMI to HDMI/VGA/DVI on a number of occasions. I typically go with StarTech adapters, they cost more than the cheap stuff but have good reliability.

Did your old GeForce GTX570 graphics card not have DisplayPort or mini-DisplayPort? Your new monitor definitely should have DisplayPort. Your graphics card was released later than Radeon HD6970, and I'm sure that all of those had DP or mDP.

NovusBogus wrote:

dashbarron wrote:

Welp. I tried a DVI-to HDMI adapater...nope. Then a solid cable mini hdmi to hdmi cable...nope.

That seems odd, I've done mini-DP and mini-HDMI to HDMI/VGA/DVI on a number of occasions. I typically go with StarTech adapters, they cost more than the cheap stuff but have good reliability.

Yeah, something's seriously messed up there. DVI and HDMI are electrically the same, so it's just a passive adapter/cable to go between the two. If the GPU still works with your old monitor, there's something wrong with the new one (either defective or misconfigured).

GeForce GTX 570 had DisplayPort 1.1a and HDMI 1.4a. You're not going to get 144 Hz @2560x1440 with either one of those. They both top out at 75 Hz.

JustAnEngineer wrote:

GeForce GTX 570 had DisplayPort 1.1a and HDMI 1.4a. You're not going to get 144 Hz @2560x1440 with either one of those. They both top out at 75 Hz.

Ahh, good point, Should still be able to get it to come up at lower res/refresh though, unless it is defective.

Morning guys.

My card has two DVIs and a mini-HDMI. I think its EVGA.

I first plugged in my solid mini-HDMI cable to HDMI cable to the back of the monitor (have two screens). It recognized the screen in the control panel, but just sat unresponsive to data/black screen. I tried unplugging the other monitor, thinking maybe it was some sort of singular output thing...nope.

Then I plugged in the DVI cable and used a DVI to HDMI adapter to plug into the monitor...and nothing. Not even recognized in Windows 7.

The worse thing is I have no way to test whether the monitor is good/bad, any pixel problems, etc. My only recourse is to 1) return monitor or 2) get a new GPU. I've shelved replacing this 10 year old computer for another month or two, but a new GPU will be here tomorrow....