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Topinio wrote:Welp, AMD is a global corporation ... LinkedIn has people listing themselves as at AMD in may countries, top 4 are
3,474 USA
1,477 Canada
1,454 India
1,451 China
A quick drill down shows
1,604 in Austin
1,295 in Toronto, plus 44 in Ontario
574 in Hyderabad
501 in Bengaluru
349 in Shanghai City plus 265 in Shanghai Suburb.
Perhaps it's just parallel design teams, as Intel has (? in Austin and Israel?) ?
anotherengineer wrote:If true it's sad in a way, losing our talent like that, soon this side of the globe won't be able to do anything anymore.
Topinio wrote:anotherengineer wrote:If true it's sad in a way, losing our talent like that, soon this side of the globe won't be able to do anything anymore.
Sure you will, still plenty of talent there -- just looks to me like there's other talented people elsewhere, competing for the work.
ronch wrote:http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-milestone/
A bit of a shocker. I though and assumed the Canadian ATI guys were behind AMD's latest. What happened to the 'original' team? And if they're still there, what are they doing? Does AMD outsource all GPU development to China now? How the heck does a bunch of Chinese guys suddenly become good at GPU design? I mean, it's not easy; so many companies can't do it. Where did AMD suddenly get these people?
anotherengineer wrote:It's hard to compete though, when my and everyone's electrical bill is the typical monthly wage in India or China. If execs keep sending all the normally decent paying jobs over seas, only thing left in North America will be minimum wage jobs, and we will be the new 2nd/3rd world countries. Albeit that's a worse case scenario. Well maybe civil war would be. Hopefully I won't be around by then though.
ronch wrote:
A bit of a shocker. I though and assumed the Canadian ATI guys were behind AMD's latest. What happened to the 'original' team?
ronch wrote:Is it possible Polaris is priced aggressively partly because it was designed in China at lower cost?
ronch wrote:http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-milestone/
A bit of a shocker. I though and assumed the Canadian ATI guys were behind AMD's latest. What happened to the 'original' team? And if they're still there, what are they doing? Does AMD outsource all GPU development to China now? How the heck does a bunch of Chinese guys suddenly become good at GPU design? I mean, it's not easy; so many companies can't do it. Where did AMD suddenly get these people?
ronch wrote:Is it possible Polaris is priced aggressively partly because it was designed in China at lower cost?
Pancake wrote:Until recently, the "mash up" folks were comfortable buying/hiring the low-end 'grunt' math. Increasingly the technical dominates within a predefined space. Jobs is long dead; the Woz has morphed into a lovable emeritus character. But, the money is in expanding the 'space' to something new, which so far, has been the domain of the 'hipsters'."mash up"
MarkG509 wrote:Pancake wrote:Until recently, the "mash up" folks were comfortable buying/hiring the low-end 'grunt' math. Increasingly the technical dominates within a predefined space. Jobs is long dead; the Woz has morphed into a lovable emeritus character. But, the money is in expanding the 'space' to something new, which so far, has been the domain of the 'hipsters'."mash up"
Pancake wrote:I'm not even sure what half you wrote means but the discussion is about the people who design stuff like GPUs and CPUs. The super-clever geniuses. These are the hardcore geeks and would be horrified at being identified as shallow "hipsters".
MarkG509 wrote:it's a step function. A very few Hipsters get to build/define the next step. Technicians/mathematicians bring everyone else up to that step.
Wonders wrote:A friend is embroiled in such a battle with his management. I sent him an email with the results of my best (as JBI calls it) google-fu on Kuhn. Thanks! (He doesn't believe/listen to me, but maybe Kuhn will have better success.)I am reminded of Kuhnian "normal science" vs. scientific revolution.
MarkG509 wrote:Pancake wrote:I'm not even sure what half you wrote means but the discussion is about the people who design stuff like GPUs and CPUs. The super-clever geniuses. These are the hardcore geeks and would be horrified at being identified as shallow "hipsters".
Perhaps different terminology. I was thinking the process was "concept, high-level architecture, micro-architecture, design, timing, verification and fab", and that the Hipsters you mentioned do concept through (at most) high-level architecture (bar napkin drawing stuff), while all the hard math happens in the micro-architecture through verification steps.
MarkG509 wrote:Pancake wrote:I'm not even sure what half you wrote means but the discussion is about the people who design stuff like GPUs and CPUs. The super-clever geniuses. These are the hardcore geeks and would be horrified at being identified as shallow "hipsters".
Perhaps different terminology. I was thinking the process was "concept, high-level architecture, micro-architecture, design, timing, verification and fab", and that the Hipsters you mentioned do concept through (at most) high-level architecture (bar napkin drawing stuff), while all the hard math happens in the micro-architecture through verification steps.
ronch wrote:http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-milestone/
A bit of a shocker. I though and assumed the Canadian ATI guys were behind AMD's latest. What happened to the 'original' team? And if they're still there, what are they doing?
Does AMD outsource all GPU development to China now? How the heck does a bunch of Chinese guys suddenly become good at GPU design? I mean, it's not easy; so many companies can't do it. Where did AMD suddenly get these people?