CScottG wrote:It's at that point where you should start considering importing for yourself.
Problem there is you usually get reamed on import duties (you're either paying Newegg or you're paying Canada Customs... pick your villain.)
Personal computing discussed
Moderators: renee, morphine, SecretSquirrel
CScottG wrote:It's at that point where you should start considering importing for yourself.
K-L-Waster wrote:CScottG wrote:It's at that point where you should start considering importing for yourself.
Problem there is you usually get reamed on import duties (you're either paying Newegg or you're paying Canada Customs... pick your villain.)
SmallinJeck wrote:I guess I will have to go for RX 480 4GB although it still looks a bit exorbitant to me.
CScottG wrote:Canadians are definitely getting corn-holed on video card prices. Average price is way beyond the 25% currency difference with the US dollar
Flying Fox wrote:CScottG wrote:Canadians are definitely getting corn-holed on video card prices. Average price is way beyond the 25% currency difference with the US dollar
Oh please, it is now 30-33%. It has not been 25% since April of last year.
CScottG wrote:But the net result is a lot worse than that. The example I provided is more than a 60% difference.
..and I screwed that up, here it is even lower in the US:
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/ ... wAod910GQA
-makes me wonder if Newegg Canada is offering butter for free to easy the pain.
Village wrote:..But I was just hopeful the 480rx 8gb would slide in under $300cdn.
CScottG wrote:Village wrote:..But I was just hopeful the 480rx 8gb would slide in under $300cdn.
It blows, but it's not brutally priced (w/rebate):
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6814150770
Still, I'd wait until Vega if I were you. If nothing else, it should lower the price of 480's..
They are close, unfortunately that style is likely to be louder than I would like. I try to keep all my PC parts as silent as possible even if that means choosing slightly slower models with big ginormous slow moving fans. =) Anyway, I'm in the market to rebuilt everything for the most part so I'll wait to Ryzen/Vega, see how they shake out the market and go from there.
Arvald wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:CScottG wrote:It's at that point where you should start considering importing for yourself.
Problem there is you usually get reamed on import duties (you're either paying Newegg or you're paying Canada Customs... pick your villain.)
Cheaper to buy off .ca
there is currency conversion. Then taxes (13%) then a $10 customs fee if via USPS and Canada post. Purolator charges up to a $40 customs fee.
Also it can get stuck in customs, opened and inspected by people with no proper training on handling electronics.
K-L-Waster wrote:(That would be one really good thing about if Radeon split off from the rest of AMD -- if they went back to the old ATI offices in Canada....)
CScottG wrote:Canadians are definitely getting corn-holed on video card prices. Average price is way beyond the 25% currency difference with the US dollar, particularly when looking at those lower-priced "deals". It's at that point where you should start considering importing for yourself.
Ex.
US:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 076&cm_sp=
Canada:
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6814137076
(though rebates don't transfer, so you'd have to find a cherry-picked deal that isn't dependent on a US rebate):
CScottG wrote:Canadians are definitely getting corn-holed on video card prices. Average price is way beyond the 25% currency difference with the US dollar, particularly when looking at those lower-priced "deals". It's at that point where you should start considering importing for yourself.
Ex.
US:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 076&cm_sp=
Canada:
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6814137076
(though rebates don't transfer, so you'd have to find a cherry-picked deal that isn't dependent on a US rebate):
SmallinJeck wrote:Do you have any suggestions?
Schmoo wrote:SmallinJeck wrote:Do you have any suggestions?
My suggestion would be to let everyone know what resolution monitor(s) you are wanting to drive and what games you are wanting to play so that they have at least some idea of what they should be recommending to you. Without this information they are only taking wild guesses and making assumptions which may be way off.
They can't provide you with useful information if you can't provide them with the basics.
ptsant wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:ptsant wrote:I absolutely agree on the RX480 4GB. It is a bit excessive for 1080p but the price difference from the 470 can be as little as $20-30, which buys ~10% more performance. I think this little bit of future-proofing is probably worth it. On the other hand, the move to the RX480 8GB or the 1060 is probably not "cost-effective" in my opinion.
Actually, I think the move to the RX480 or 1060 (6GB) is cost-effective. Look at the Fury X; Phenomenal compute power and memory bandwidth hampered by the fact that it's only a 4GB card and thus unsuitable for its target resolutions with 2016 and 2017 games. Sure, it'll beat lots of other cards at 1080p where 4GB is ample VRAM but the cheaper, cooler, quieter, newer, more advanced cards are already getting hundreds of fps without any of the Fury X's disadvantages. At 3440x1440 and above where it ought to shine, it chokes compared to the 8GB competition due to a shortage of VRAM.
I don't consider the RX480 to be made for 3440x1440, even though I bought it for 2560x1440p myself. Which is why I got the 8GB model. But if you play 1080p, I don't think you'll need 8GB soon and, meanwhile, the only performance benefit is the 7 vs 8 GHz RAM speed. So, you may not run into RAM limitations, but if you absolutely need 8GB, it's also quite probable that you need a faster card.
The 8GB model makes sense for people like me who want a little bit more for 1440p but who can't afford the huge jump to the 1070. I see it as a bit of a compromise, while the 480 4GB is almost overkill for 1080p.
Anyway, it all comes down to monitor resolutions and the relative utility of $40-50 (jump from 4GB to 8GB) to you...
ptsant wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:ptsant wrote:I absolutely agree on the RX480 4GB. It is a bit excessive for 1080p but the price difference from the 470 can be as little as $20-30, which buys ~10% more performance. I think this little bit of future-proofing is probably worth it. On the other hand, the move to the RX480 8GB or the 1060 is probably not "cost-effective" in my opinion.
Actually, I think the move to the RX480 or 1060 (6GB) is cost-effective. Look at the Fury X; Phenomenal compute power and memory bandwidth hampered by the fact that it's only a 4GB card and thus unsuitable for its target resolutions with 2016 and 2017 games. Sure, it'll beat lots of other cards at 1080p where 4GB is ample VRAM but the cheaper, cooler, quieter, newer, more advanced cards are already getting hundreds of fps without any of the Fury X's disadvantages. At 3440x1440 and above where it ought to shine, it chokes compared to the 8GB competition due to a shortage of VRAM.
I don't consider the RX480 to be made for 3440x1440, even though I bought it for 2560x1440p myself. Which is why I got the 8GB model. But if you play 1080p, I don't think you'll need 8GB soon and, meanwhile, the only performance benefit is the 7 vs 8 GHz RAM speed. So, you may not run into RAM limitations, but if you absolutely need 8GB, it's also quite probable that you need a faster card.
The 8GB model makes sense for people like me who want a little bit more for 1440p but who can't afford the huge jump to the 1070. I see it as a bit of a compromise, while the 480 4GB is almost overkill for 1080p.
Anyway, it all comes down to monitor resolutions and the relative utility of $40-50 (jump from 4GB to 8GB) to you...