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chuckula wrote:More power to AMD if it means they can get sales and make money, but there's been a lot of disingenuous stuff about how only AMD cares about gamers and how Ngreedia is gouging consumers. It looks like reality doesn't necessarily line up with the stories we've been told.
K-L-Waster wrote:What, you mean AMD might design their product line around what makes the most money for AMD share-holders?
What a bizarro-world idea....
JustAnEngineer wrote:Chuckula is going to attack AMD for anything that they do or for anything that they don't do. Jerry Sanders must have sullied Chuckula's sister's honor on some unforgivable dark day in the past.
Firestarter wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:What, you mean AMD might design their product line around what makes the most money for AMD share-holders?
What a bizarro-world idea....
well betting on crypto is a rather short-term bet, if their gaming graphics card market share drops so low as to become irrelevant and their crypto mining revenue dries up, Radeon Technology Group wouldn't be worth much anymore. And that could happen relatively quickly
cynan wrote:Firestarter wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:What, you mean AMD might design their product line around what makes the most money for AMD share-holders?
What a bizarro-world idea....
well betting on crypto is a rather short-term bet, if their gaming graphics card market share drops so low as to become irrelevant and their crypto mining revenue dries up, Radeon Technology Group wouldn't be worth much anymore. And that could happen relatively quickly
Absolutely. But then again, the mining boom could last another 6 months. Or maybe even a year with the rise of other cryptocurrencies that radeons are competent at....
Lordhawkwind wrote:...and forget the 750w PSU it won't do the business.
Lordhawkwind wrote:As someone who managed to snag a Vega 64 AC on launch day for just £450 avoid it like the plague. The card and drivers are horrendous and forget the 750w PSU it won't do the business. RTG needs to hang their heads in shame after releasing this garbage. Disappointed doesn't even come close and I only bought it because I have a freesync monitor. This card could kill freesync completely it's that bad. Luckily I have a 14 day no quibble refund which I will be using very shortly. A 1080ti here I come.
Pville_Piper wrote:So I guess all the good ones went to the reviewers?
Waco wrote:Pville_Piper wrote:So I guess all the good ones went to the reviewers?
I'm going to go with buyer's remorse and a large helping of hyperbole, myself.
Kougar wrote:AMD might as well just release a dedicated mining card and roll with it. That would be the best thing AMD could do if they truly wanted to separate miners from the gamers so gamers didn't end up paying an inflated mining tax to the retailers just to replace gaming cards.
Bitcoins were introduced eight years ago, and coins are more popular now than ever before, used at more places now than ever before, and every time some alt-coin fades away more continue to replace it. I'm sure the current bubble will burst, but it wasn't the first bubble nor will it be the last, there will undoubtedly be more mining bubbles after this one ends.
Kougar wrote:AMD might as well just release a dedicated mining card and roll with it. That would be the best thing AMD could do if they truly wanted to separate miners from the gamers so gamers didn't end up paying an inflated mining tax to the retailers just to replace gaming cards.
Bitcoins were introduced eight years ago, and coins are more popular now than ever before, used at more places now than ever before, and every time some alt-coin fades away more continue to replace it. I'm sure the current bubble will burst, but it wasn't the first bubble nor will it be the last, there will undoubtedly be more mining bubbles after this one ends.
SpotTheCat wrote:This actually reminds me of using ethanol for fuel. Goodbye rock bottom food prices!
SpotTheCat wrote:If producing cards with lower volumes can survive at lower prices, then higher demand should be able to survive at even lower prices long term. Eventually mining will ebb and there will be oversupply to drive prices rock bottom for people waiting to upgrade :fingerscrossed:
CuttinHobo wrote:Considering the short windows where a GPU is the best way to chew through cryptocurrency - before the specialized ASICs come out - I it might be AMD's best bet to cater to that fleeting market immediately. It seems like most miners will gladly pay launch-day prices, whether they end up making an actual profit or not. If they had held the mining optimizations back until gamers get their fill, it may have been too late.
Topinio wrote:Sure, miners have more money than gamers, in general; however, it seems like everyone "should" pay launch day as apparently launch day prices are not the real prices...
Waco wrote:Pville_Piper wrote:So I guess all the good ones went to the reviewers?
I'm going to go with buyer's remorse and a large helping of hyperbole, myself.
K-L-Waster wrote:Topinio wrote:Sure, miners have more money than gamers, in general; however, it seems like everyone "should" pay launch day as apparently launch day prices are not the real prices...
Holy crap!
Now, to be clear, we haven't seen anything official from AMD on the pricing model mentioned in that article... but if it turns out that's legit, that sounds flat out illegal. I don't think anywhere allows bait-and-switch pricing.
DPete27 wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:Topinio wrote:Sure, miners have more money than gamers, in general; however, it seems like everyone "should" pay launch day as apparently launch day prices are not the real prices...
Holy crap!
Now, to be clear, we haven't seen anything official from AMD on the pricing model mentioned in that article... but if it turns out that's legit, that sounds flat out illegal. I don't think anywhere allows bait-and-switch pricing.
How is that bait and switch? They DID sell cards at $499....even if it was only 275 of them. Giveaway games like that are never "free"