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Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:27 pm

Sorry, just having a fit about ram & gpu prices.
 
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:40 pm

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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:45 pm

They probably will.
 
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:57 pm

A bit early for the holiday season, but whatever. To the tune of God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen:

Burst ye curs-ed crypto bubble
End gamers' great dismay
For Ether, blockchain's savior
Is mined worldwide this day
To play our games at decent frame rates
Fast GPU the only way
To bring tidings of fragging and joy.
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:16 pm

RAM prices have nothing to do with cryptocurrency. The RAM prices are entirely caused by the same companies doing the thing they did not that long ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing
 
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:28 pm

I'd be willing to bet the crypto bubble has at least some effect. When a high-end GPU has as much RAM on it as a mid-range PC's motherboard, the GPUs are accounting for a significant chunk of the market. Even though it's not the exact same type of RAM, it is utilizing fab capacity.
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:01 pm

just brew it! wrote:
I'd be willing to bet the crypto bubble has at least some effect. When a high-end GPU has as much RAM on it as a mid-range PC's motherboard, the GPUs are accounting for a significant chunk of the market. Even though it's not the exact same type of RAM, it is utilizing fab capacity.


That'd be my guess--at the least there's chip infrastructure dedicated to it. No doubt Korean price manipulation is a chunk of it as well. They say smartphones are gobbling up RAM as well. Whatever the contributing factors, it's all plain to see that it's raising the barrier to entry for gamers. Hear ye, we'll need more protest carols for the holiday!
 
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:23 am

Not gonna happen.
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:33 am

Takeshi7 wrote:
RAM prices have nothing to do with cryptocurrency. The RAM prices are entirely caused by the same companies doing the thing they did not that long ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing


I've had similar thoughts about the SSD market. Prices seem to remain stagnant.
 
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:39 am

klrcommute wrote:
Sorry, just having a fit about ram & gpu prices.


Ram should not be greatly impacted by miners. That is all the 'fake' memory shortage BS from the dram makers conspiring ..
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:36 am

I'm sure there's a bit of reluctance to adjust price, no doubt. However, there is a growing demand for chips these days with a finite amount of fab capacity. Seems like basic economics to me. Until more fabs are built and capacity increased I don't see much changing. As you pointed out, though, the chip makers are loving the extra cash and don't feel like adding capacity.
 
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:44 am

DragonDaddyBear wrote:
Until more fabs are built and capacity increased I don't see much changing. As you pointed out, though, the chip makers are loving the extra cash and don't feel like adding capacity.

Fabrication, and DRAM fabrication in particular, is a volatile market. Fab investments won't be made unless the vendors are certain there's a permanent shift in the demand curve.
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Re: Burst ye crypto bubble!!!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:08 am

When systems are limited to ~6 GPUs per rig the massive farmers begin buying multiple rigs. Not a main factor, but certainly was a contributing factor to some degree. Was why I was actually happy to see ASUS introducing that absurd 19-GPU motherboard.

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