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1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:37 am

Shopping out new computer parts to replace my 2008 rig, and want to pull the trigger this weekend. I'm looking to finally bump up from 1080 to a 2560x1440, because I don't think I want to try and keep 4k resolutions, and I'm not sure down-scaling is a good idea(?).

Looking at the obvious choice of Asus G-Sync option, but is there something else I should be aware of, or ideas in general? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0173 ... 0DER&psc=1

Currently running an Ultrasharp 27" 1920x1080. Love the Ultrasharp series, and I figure this will be a nice companion to a newer monitor.
 
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:25 am

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I'm not sure down-scaling is a good idea(?).

In Apple land we use 4K and 5K displays in "Retina" mode (quad pixels per pixel). A 4K display can run at quad pixel 1920x1080 and a 5K display can run at quad pixel 2560x1440. This makes for beautifully smooth text.

For Windows users I believe one sets their display scaling to 200% to achieve the same result when using high DPI displays.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:09 am

There are actually several G-Sync IPS 144+Hz 1440P vendors:

https://www.amazon.com/PG279Q-2560x1440 ... B017EVR2VM
https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG2703 ... 7%22+Gsync
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG271QG-Gami ... 7%22+gsync
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-XB ... sync&psc=1

It looks like the AOC is currently $600 and the Acer is $650. Differentiation is only QC, stand, OSD, and warranty...the panels are the same.

27" 1440P is absolutely the sweet spot for gaming.
 
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:03 pm

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There are actually several G-Sync IPS 144+Hz 1440P vendors:


27" 1440P is absolutely the sweet spot for gaming.


Well, that's why I'm checking :)

Seems like G-Sync is only real con, if at all. But my last AMD card was when it was ATI, so I suspect I'll be with Nvidia for awhie and they will remain relevant for quite a few years yet.

Edit: ATI.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:47 pm

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Kretschmer wrote:
There are actually several G-Sync IPS 144+Hz 1440P vendors:


27" 1440P is absolutely the sweet spot for gaming.


Well, that's why I'm checking :)

Seems like G-Sync is only real con, if at all. But my last card was an ATI variant, and I suspect Nvidia will remain relevant for quite a few years yet.

I've used GSync an FreeSync in the past year, and FreeSync was definitely more problematic. Haven't had any issues with Gsync so far.
 
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:18 pm

PG279Q owner here (with a 1080) and couldn't be happier. Well, I could, if the price of the monitor wasn't ~800 bucks when I got it. Whatever. 120Hz+ at all times is the best.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:02 pm

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PG279Q owner here (with a 1080) and couldn't be happier. Well, I could, if the price of the monitor wasn't ~800 bucks when I got it. Whatever. 120Hz+ at all times is the best.


I might end up going with the Acer variant which is 144Hz, because it probably won't matter much.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0173 ... 0DER&psc=1
 
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:19 pm

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I might end up going with the Acer variant which is 144Hz, because it probably won't matter much.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0173 ... 0DER&psc=1


Yeah, it's the same panel. The Asus is just overclocked to 165Hz. If I'm being honest though, I never even set it to 144 or 165Hz. It stays at 120 all the time.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:33 pm

AFAIK Acer has the best QC, the best stand and usually the cheapest.

My little rant with gaming monitors: Lots of choices at first glance, but after filtering out the TNs, VA gamma shift/smear fests, large but crappy PPI 1080p panels, lousy Freesync refresh rates/ranges, and the lame curve/ultrawides the 27" 1440p Gsync IPS panels are the only ones left worth looking at, especially with a NV card.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:09 pm

The Nixeus NX-EDG27 is a 27" 2560x1440 IPS display with a FreeSync range of 30 to 144 Hz.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:12 pm

I can't really speak to the QC except anecdotally. My particular panel has pretty low bleed, and I haven't noticed any dead/bright pixels so I was pretty happy. I'm not necessarily sure how the Acer stand might be better, other than taking up a bit less space. The Asus stand is nice and sturdy. No issues for me. The Acer model is definitely cheaper, usually. Anyway, I think you should be happy with any of the ones mentioned. Go for it.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:51 pm

According to an Email I got from Asus today the ROG Swift PG278QR will be $220 off at Amazon Friday...
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:33 am

strangerguy wrote:
AFAIK Acer has the best QC, the best stand and usually the cheapest.

My little rant with gaming monitors: Lots of choices at first glance, but after filtering out the TNs, VA gamma shift/smear fests, large but crappy PPI 1080p panels, lousy Freesync refresh rates/ranges, and the lame curve/ultrawides the 27" 1440p Gsync IPS panels are the only ones left worth looking at, especially with a NV card.


Pretty much my process. After going through everything, there's only kind of one conclusion to come up with.

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According to an Email I got from Asus today the ROG Swift PG278QR will be $220 off at Amazon Friday...


Oooh, nice. I've got all but RAM picked through on Amazon in my cart, and I've been watching prices. A few things have moved $5-25 dollars lower since last weekend, so I'm kind of waiting to see what happens on Friday, but will probably wait until Monday to pull the trigger on any technical savings/deals. Though sometimes, vendors just do the Friday-Monday set of "Deals" which may/may not just be anchor prices.
 
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:37 am

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dashbarron wrote:
Kretschmer wrote:
There are actually several G-Sync IPS 144+Hz 1440P vendors:


27" 1440P is absolutely the sweet spot for gaming.


Well, that's why I'm checking :)

Seems like G-Sync is only real con, if at all. But my last card was an ATI variant, and I suspect Nvidia will remain relevant for quite a few years yet.

I've used GSync an FreeSync in the past year, and FreeSync was definitely more problematic. Haven't had any issues with Gsync so far.


Out of curiosity, which Freesync monitor did you use that was problematic? It seems like the only people having issues with either tech comes from the display they were using. As strangeguy stated, there are so many crappy filler displays on the market. I always laugh when someone's points out a really cheap Freesync monitor and then I see the range at something stupid like 40-65hz.... Oh you mean a range that even with spikes is hard to accomplish and maintain and then no LFC because the range isn't large enough. At that point you might not as well have the support for Freesync.

JAE posted the same display that I bought. It seems to be a quality display at the most reasonable price in the feature set of Freesync. 1440p, 30-144hz Freesync Range, LFC, IPS with 8bit color, perferct middle ground semi gloss that doesn't take away colors. Using the same panel as Acer, Asus and AOC and apparently better QC, less to near no IPS glow or backlight bleed.

I pulled the trigger for $349. Should have it this week.
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:30 am

Welch wrote:
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dashbarron wrote:

Well, that's why I'm checking :)

Seems like G-Sync is only real con, if at all. But my last card was an ATI variant, and I suspect Nvidia will remain relevant for quite a few years yet.

I've used GSync an FreeSync in the past year, and FreeSync was definitely more problematic. Haven't had any issues with Gsync so far.


Out of curiosity, which Freesync monitor did you use that was problematic? It seems like the only people having issues with either tech comes from the display they were using. As strangeguy stated, there are so many crappy filler displays on the market. I always laugh when someone's points out a really cheap Freesync monitor and then I see the range at something stupid like 40-65hz.... Oh you mean a range that even with spikes is hard to accomplish and maintain and then no LFC because the range isn't large enough. At that point you might not as well have the support for Freesync.

JAE posted the same display that I bought. It seems to be a quality display at the most reasonable price in the feature set of Freesync. 1440p, 30-144hz Freesync Range, LFC, IPS with 8bit color, perferct middle ground semi gloss that doesn't take away colors. Using the same panel as Acer, Asus and AOC and apparently better QC, less to near no IPS glow or backlight bleed.

I pulled the trigger for $349. Should have it this week.

I ran into FreeSync quirkiness with both the Asus MG279Q and LG UM3488-P on both a 290X and 390X. Both premium, well-built displays.
 
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Re: 1440 Monitor Upgrade

Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:13 pm

Could you elaborate on the issues you ran into? That Asus monitor was one of the more popular ones for sure and I do know some people had issues with it for various reasons. So what exactly were you experiencing? I want to make sure I know what to look for.
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