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UPDATE 2 ** (credit goes to zeroyon04 for this)
MSI's global website is missing the GAMING branding for RX 580s,570s, and 560s.
https://imgur.com/a/AVmem
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-cards/
MSI's US only website does still have GAMING branded RX 580s, 570s, and 560s but the number of retailers for these GAMING cards are 2 at most.
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-cards/
UPDATE 3 **
GIGABYTE's website has also removed AORUS branding from AMD cards and ironically switched it with GAMING, which is what MSI typically uses. http://www.gigabyte.fi/Graphics-Card/AMD-Series
https://imgur.com/a/AVmem
Once again, the US website does still have the gaming branding
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/AMD-Series
Welch wrote:Hmmm, yeah I noticed that too. I've been looking at RX 580 cards for the past 2 months or so just to track the prices. The Aourus card specifically was one that constantly popped up. That seems to unlikely to have all of those brands remove those specific cards, but from a retailers site too? I'm not sure what to make of it, but I have a feeling that between the CTS dealio and this GPP stuff, that Nvidia is throwing as much crap as AMD as possible to try and kill their gaining market share.
Airmantharp wrote:Welch wrote:Hmmm, yeah I noticed that too. I've been looking at RX 580 cards for the past 2 months or so just to track the prices. The Aourus card specifically was one that constantly popped up. That seems to unlikely to have all of those brands remove those specific cards, but from a retailers site too? I'm not sure what to make of it, but I have a feeling that between the CTS dealio and this GPP stuff, that Nvidia is throwing as much crap as AMD as possible to try and kill their gaining market share.
AMD doesn't need any help killing their own marketshare
Welch wrote:Well they gained market share this last go around... so there is that. I think their market share in this GPU space is just a bubble thanks to crypto currency, so I want give them a bunch of credit for gaining share until we see where things land. They legitimately are kicking ass in the CPU market share space though, as was recently shown.
ludi wrote:I'm so old, I not only remember when Google wasn't evil; I remember when Nvidia wasn't evil.
Airmantharp wrote:Welch wrote:Well they gained market share this last go around... so there is that. I think their market share in this GPU space is just a bubble thanks to crypto currency, so I want give them a bunch of credit for gaining share until we see where things land. They legitimately are kicking ass in the CPU market share space though, as was recently shown.
I don't really see them gaining any GPU market share; I don't really count mining, as that could go bust tomorrow, with my concept of 'market share' being based on the idea that people are likely to buy what they already have, and miners could give a rats. AMD is not gaining gaming or compute market share outside of mining, and that's largely due to their own engineering decisions.
In the CPU space, they're now at least doing okay. I'd prefer they do better, and if they were I'd probably own a Ryzen CPU myself, but they've at least moved their performance meter to the current decade and that's a start.
Their really only interesting part right now is Threadripper. It remains to be seen if AMD can compete in the server market (I don't mean in terms of technology but in terms of actually selling units). I think the next version of their arch will be far more disruptive to the market if Intel doesn't pull another IPC hat out of their bag, and I give that a solid 50/50. And I do hate betting against Intel making technology improvements.
NovusBogus wrote:Maybe they can just drop the pretense and rebrand the AMD cards for mining. Asus Empire of Coin, Gigabyte Computepunk, MSI Hashzilla, that sort of thing.
Waco wrote:It's amusing watching the fallout from this, but I bet the rage is short-lived. Hopefully Nvidia learns a lesson, but I doubt they will.
chuckula wrote:I have read this thread and seen what has actually happened and I'll say
ludi wrote:chuckula wrote:I have read this thread and seen what has actually happened and I'll say
Now that's thinking like an Nvidia lawyer!
Seriously. They have obviously vetted this pretty carefully but the arm twisting is real. Vendors like Asus and MSI have invested heavily in brands like RoG and Fatal1ty over a period of years, and with Nvidia dominating the GPU market right now as you noted, they don't have much choice but to roll over and cede that established branding to Nvidia products. AMD, being the smaller rival, gets whatever dregs of a new marketing campaign the vendors can afford to build. That's pretty much a textbook example of monopoly power at work.
It may be legal but it's "a heads I win, tails you lose" deal.
The rumors, conjecture and mistruths go far beyond its intent. Rather than battling misinformation, we have decided to cancel the program.
Redocbew wrote:The rumors, conjecture and mistruths go far beyond its intent. Rather than battling misinformation, we have decided to cancel the program.
Translation: Now that the cat is out of the bag you're all being a real pain in the ass, and it's not like we really need this program anyway.
chuckula wrote:Oh man... they canceled it! https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/05/04/gpp/
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO WHINE ABOUT NOW!?!?!?
derFunkenstein wrote:chuckula wrote:Oh man... they canceled it! https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/05/04/gpp/
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO WHINE ABOUT NOW!?!?!?
Memory prices.