dragontamer5788 wrote:FreeSync is pretty nice in my experience. I'd personally get the one with FreeSync. From a gaming perspective, I'd pay a bit extra for FreeSync. I think its definitely worth it.
The other consideration is CUDA. There are more 3d renderers and accelerators that use CUDA (although OpenCL's base is still strong in Adobe products). So if you have any CUDA-accelerated applications (Octane Renderer for example), then you'd want to go with NVidia.
Another consideration: what is the fan situation on both cards? Many Vega64 cards have the crappy stock cooler (whose only real purpose seems to be... rip it off and throw a liquid cooler onto it). If you have a double-fan or triple-fan setup, its much better for most use cases. A proper fan is worth at least $20, maybe more.
Krogoth wrote:1070Ti or Vega 56 and flash it to 64 BIOS.
Vega architecture has some legroom left in it while Pascal is fully matured and will not see any significant improvements.
Topinio wrote:I would not go with either, they are too old (10.5 and 13 months old).
Rumours are strong for the GTX 1180 based on Turing to land next month, and AMD is already sampling 7 nm Vega 20 for launch this year (only talking so far about selling it in compute parts, not gaming ones, but if Turing kills the ability to sell Radeon RX Vega 56 and 64 above production cost, its hand will be forced).
Do you need to game at super high settings right now, that only those cards will support?
Gandolf wrote:I was looking into the gtx 1180 but from what I saw online Nvidia said they were not coming out any time soon.
The problem is I have quite the old video card (HD 7950). And it just isn't cutting it in all games.
DPete27 wrote:So if you're waiting for the 1180 at reasonable prices, you're going to be waiting....at least 5 more months.
Topinio wrote:DPete27 wrote:Yes, OP has an ancient HD 7950 and should upgrade it, but a thing to remember is that NVIDIA cards age way less gracefully than that that 6.5 y.o. Radeon has.
Pancake wrote:Topinio wrote:NVIDIA cards age way less gracefully than that that 6.5 y.o. Radeon has.
That myth needs to die. When the 7950 was released it was second only to the 7970 and pretty much kicked sand in the face of NVidias offerings. Then they didn't do very much and NVidia accelerated away and AMD found themselves an also-ran.
Topinio wrote:6 years ago, £250-300 or so would have got me that HD 7950 or a GTX 660 Ti. 6.5 years ago, for £350 or so I could have got the HD 7950 at launch or a GTX 580. Which vendor would you rather have paid the money for and been stuck on for the length of time OP has?
Topinio wrote:My comment is about the fact that AMD cards have aged better. 6 years ago, £250-300 or so would have got me that HD 7950 or a GTX 660 Ti. 6.5 years ago, for £350 or so I could have got the HD 7950 at launch or a GTX 580. Which vendor would you rather have paid the money for and been stuck on for the length of time OP has?
Chrispy_ wrote:AMD don't have competition for the 1080Ti, so Nvidia won't be aggressive on pricing. Expect a bare-minimum of $699 but with Nvidia likely having an untouchable halo product at least until Vega 7nm arrives, I wouldn't be remotely surprised to see them tack another hundred or two hundred dollars onto the price tag until all of the old 1080Ti inventory is sold off. They can afford to milk the early-adopters without viable competition and Nvidia have a solid track record going back over 10 years of doing exactly this.
Kretschmer wrote:Just be aware that Vega could be the new Hawaii and you might not be able to ugprade for several years.
K-L-Waster wrote:The thing I find odd is there seems to be a perception out there that NVidia is unique in this regard. It's business 101: sell your products at the price point that allows you to maximize profit.
Topinio wrote:Kretschmer wrote:Just be aware that Vega could be the new Hawaii and you might not be able to ugprade for several years.
As someone who upgraded a Hawaii XT to a Vega 10 Pro, I this message.
On timelines, it all depends which market segments get fed when, but you can look at the Linux kernel support as foreshadowing, and that shows
2016-03-26 Linux driver initial support
2016-06-29 Consumer boards
2016-11-10 Pro boards
2016-12-12 Compute boards
2017-03-20 Linux driver initial support
2017-06-21 Compute boards
2017-06-27 Pro boards
2017-08-14 Consumer boards
2018-05-17 Linux driver initial support
Kretschmer wrote:We're talking about gaming, not Linux.
Kretschmer wrote:If you have the PSU and cooling to support a Vega64 AND plan on sticking with your monitor grab the Vega. I prefer Pascal, but adaptive sync is really nice. Just be aware that Vega could be the new Hawaii and you might not be able to ugprade for several years.