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New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:33 pm

I am looking for a very specific gpu for my htpc. It is an old i3-2120t, but I want to add support for 4k and HEVC/h.265 throug Plex. So, what I want is a GT1030 (low power), and I really need the following:

1. HDMI connector (and hopefully DP) with audio over
2. It absolutely MUST be a single slot design, and not one with a hanging cooler. The entire card must fit into 1 slot, as the 1x slot is right next to it and is needed for my tuner card.
3. I really want silent/quiet. Passive is preferred, but rare.

I have checked Newegg, Amazon, even Best Buy. I can't find a card that meets these criteria. Anyone find one?
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:54 pm

1) Likely possible to find. EVGA usually offers a low-end variant of the lower end chips with this combo. Now if you can get this plus the other criteria, I don’t know.

2) Single slot will almost always have a tiny fan, and sometimes they last a long time and sometimes not. They can likely be unplugged to make the card passive with adequate case airflow. I have a pair of Zotac GT630s and a Sapphire HD6450 that are all truly single slot with little fans that have lasted a long time. The 6450 has basically been on since it was purchased.

3) Passive is going to be double slot.

There is no reason for your desired card not to exist, but it may not. Keep searching. GT1030, RX550/560 should all have single-slot editions (although again, they may not). Keep your eye on the TR Forum thread “Best Low Profile Video Cards” which, although not exactly what you’re after, may have helpful information nonetheless.

Edit to add - did you see the Zotac on Newegg for $89? It appears to be truly single slot. The cheap Gigabyte looks like fake single-slot, but the Zotac looks real. It’s also GDDR5. It’s also HDMI and DVI.
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:57 pm

This one is the best I see, but point 3 is missing and DDR4 to get power consumption down (for lower noise) is a harsh tradeoff. There is a GDDR5 version that looks identical aside from the memory and hotter clocks, but noise may not be great to start with and it sounds like you may be restricting that fan's intake.

Passive single-slot probably isn't happening, and if it did sandwiching it in right next to another card would probably make it demand a lot of ambient airflow anyway. The thermal/noise situation doesn't look great any way you slice it.
 
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:19 pm

Maybe something along these lines could do the trick, but the C/W numbers just aren't very good, despite that being all-copper and pricey (hinting at why passive single-slot cards don't exist). That one might just about do it for HTPC use if you ensure good ambient airflow (assuming the RAM can be left out of the heatsink's budget), but would probably still throttle badly under gaming loads. Mounting it to the board is yet another issue; being copper, the weight is probably too much for adhesive TIM, and it may not be shaped right to clear other components on the board.

That might be thermally excellent with ductwork such that a case fan is forcing air through it, if you don't mind fabricating such things and don't mind the card's cooling system not really being self-contained.
 
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:10 pm

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Maybe something along these lines could do the trick, but the C/W numbers just aren't very good, despite that being all-copper and pricey (hinting at why passive single-slot cards don't exist). That one might just about do it for HTPC use if you ensure good ambient airflow (assuming the RAM can be left out of the heatsink's budget), but would probably still throttle badly under gaming loads. Mounting it to the board is yet another issue; being copper, the weight is probably too much for adhesive TIM, and it may not be shaped right to clear other components on the board.

That might be thermally excellent with ductwork such that a case fan is forcing air through it, if you don't mind fabricating such things and don't mind the card's cooling system not really being self-contained.


I have a Quadro p600 and without some kind of ductwork, passive is not going to work in a single socket.
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:32 pm

I got this one for almost exactly the same reasons you mention:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/4797 ... Video_Card

Works fine. Streams 4k 60fps YouTube videos without fuss.
 
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:45 am

When you write that it must be single slot does that also mean that it cannot occupy space on the other side?

A while ago I had this passively cooled 8800GT card:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2389/2
As you can see, it is single slot in the sense that there are no problems fitting a card in the slot right next to it, however it is still 100% passively cooled since the cooler was just moved to the other side and connected via heatpipes. I don't know if a similar design could be found with the 1030 chip, but I quite liked it. Putting the fins on top also meant that the air circulation from CPU cooler helped a bit with the cooling and I never had any problems with cooling even in long gaming sessions.
 
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:21 am

That Zotac looks solid with hdmi 2.0b. I will look into that.
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:11 am

Dumb question maybe, but have you perused this forum thread?

I'm not sure I understand why your tuner card is preventing a 2-slot GPU. Cant you move it to the 3rd or 4th slot on the mobo? Can you elaborate on your mobo model and card setup?
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:30 am

DPete27 wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why your tuner card is preventing a 2-slot GPU. Cant you move it to the 3rd or 4th slot on the mobo? Can you elaborate on your mobo model and card setup?


Its because the other slots are PCI. Its an old board. At the time, I only needed a 1x slot and had no need for a GPU. Now that HEVC and 4k matters, a video card or a new cpu/mobo is needed. I would rather go with a low power video card and keep my nice little system.
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:48 am

TheEmrys wrote:
The other slots are PCI. Its an old board.
SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium arrived in 2008 for PCIe x1. There hasn’t been a reason for me to accept a legacy PCI slot on a motherboard since then.
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:52 am

Right. Its my HTPC, so it has my Hauppaugge TV Tuner. 1x PCIe.
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Re: New HTPC GPU - GT1030 - but where are they?

Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:10 am

I've not seen a single-slot passive GT1030 because they all tend to also be half-height.

Half-height, single-slot, passive is not enough cooling for the GT1030, which is why they don't exist.

An image search (the easiest way to find stuff, I find) brings up no full-height, single-slot, passive cards - not even in obscure regions.

Your best option is going to be to tolerate fan noise, I think. Lots of options like that with single-slot and HDMI out.
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