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1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:53 am

still running i7 2600k with gtx970 is it worth upgrading graphics to 1080ti for $450
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:23 am

Probably a good idea if you are running >1080p and especially if you already have a G-sync monitor. I would probably opt for the 1080 if you don't run 4k but it certainly depends on the price differences. If the extra $$ from the 1080 to the Ti is limited it would be worth it. Both will last a long time (no competition right now).
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:32 pm

It depends on the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor, what games you play, and what settings you tend to play them at. Resolution is the biggest one: 1080p = no, 1440p = maybe, 4K = probably.
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:26 pm

mostly fps and racing games, i have a ultrawide monitor 2560×1080, trying to decide between used 1080ti for $500 or used vega 64 for $400
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:04 pm

1) what model is your monitor? Does it have FreeSync
2) Something like a Vega56 or RTX2070/GTX1070 can do 2560x1080 no sweat.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:10 pm

Judging by my experience going from a 780Ti to a 1080 Vanilla, let alone the Ti, the performance improvement is staggering. The 970 and the 780Ti are about neck-and-neck. While you will see more gains at high res, even with your current monitor your performance should at least double. Upgrading to 4k the performance almost triples. 1080Ti is a monster, and likely will remain the fastest card without raytracing ever made.

Now, whether or not your monitor is capable of displaying the 100+ FPS you will generally get is another challenge altogether. In this sense, if you are already playing everything at max settings and getting decent frame rates, all you will experience differently with the 1080Ti should be no hitching at all. That may be worth it to you.
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:58 pm

The 2600K will be a much bigger issue for stutter than the 970.

At 2560x1080, I wouldn't spend on more than a Vega 56 or 1070 Ti. That'll be plenty to let you max out settings in pretty much anything. V56 has a big advantage if your monitor supports Freesync, 1070/Ti if it's G-Sync or power is a big concern and you don't want to use WattMan. If that doesn't sound like enough performance, you'd probably be better off going for a new mobo/CPU/RAM instead of a much beefier GPU.

If you're not keeping up with the latest AAA titles and/or are fine with turning settings down a bit, then keeping the 970 and going for a mobo/CPU/RAM upgrade will probably be much more effective.

The on-paper performance improvements available from 1080s and 1080 Tis are huge, but with this CPU and monitor those improvements won't get much of a chance to show up in practice.
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:41 pm

You will be massively bottlenecked by your 2600k with a 1080ti.

I had an i7 3820 (basically 2600k on X79 platform) and it couldn't keep up with the 1080, huge performance dips in games like BF1.

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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:10 am

i have a lg 29 uc88, went with used vega 64 got it down to $340 since my monitor supports freesync. will probably upgrade system next few months.
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:05 am

Nice, that's a Freesync combo, and the 75Hz of that monitor isn't going to worry about your old i7.

I assume your 2600K is overclocked, in which case it's really not that bad, despite its age.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:30 am

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Nice, that's a Freesync combo, and the 75Hz of that monitor isn't going to worry about your old i7.

I assume your 2600K is overclocked, in which case it's really not that bad, despite its age.


I second that. I'm running a 3440x1440 60hz monitor on a 1080ti and an antiquated i7-3770 with 16 gigs and I'm never CPU bottlenecked.
Only +120/144hz gamers will run into issues with that.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:41 am

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an antiquated i7-3770

Do you have a Z-series motherboard? Have you tried overclocking it?
Reason I ask is because I've been looking at upgrading my 3570K to a used 3770 on the cheap and doing the non-K overclocking thing.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:16 am

I had a 3770 until A K-series was retired at work and I abducted it for my own home.

4.2GHz all-core was a set-and-forget, using an H87 board from Asrock, IIRC.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:24 am

So I ran the GTX 970 for a good long while, and then the 1080 for almost a year, and a 1080 Ti now, on a 4790K. I have a friend across town still living on a 2500K and an RX580. When I went from 1080 to WQHD, that prompted my switch from 970 to 1080, and it was worth it. When I got a proper UHD monitor, that got me off of 1080 onto 1080 Ti, and I'm now at the point where I'd love to upgrade it, but there are no compelling options under 1K$.

At 1080P, I have a 144Hz freesync monitor, and my 1080 Ti routinely pegs that sucker out at ~150fps with all options maxed. A 1080 Ti will be glorious overkill for your 2560*1080 panel. If you've got the funds, grab it, and forget all about "adjusting quality settings".
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:28 am

Any OC on that 4790K?? Haven't done so on mine yet, but I'm sure the old Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme is up to the task. Even have room in the P182 for a second fan for push-pull if needed.

FWIW, I'm considering a 1080/1080ti & monitor upgrade myself. Been looking at that old Dell 2007WFP for far too long.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:09 am

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Been looking at that old Dell 2007WFP for far too long.

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Is that the S-IPS panel or S-PVA panel?

Either way, yeah, I think you could use an upgrade.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:24 am

Wasn't overclocked till recently, aside from some multiplier dickery that Gigabyte did behind my back. Was supposed to be 4.0 base, 4.4 single core turbo, and I'd catch it at 4.4 all core turbo whenever my settings got reset. I recently had my 1080 Ti FE's heatsink fail, so I drowned the whole rig with EK. Now I think my CPU is 4.6 all cores as a make do until I can afford a full CPU/board/ram upgrade. It really doesn't have anything more in it, even with lots of volts. The downside of buying factory OC.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:46 am

DPete27 wrote:
20"
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Is that the S-IPS panel or S-PVA panel?

Either way, yeah, I think you could use an upgrade.

Panel lottery got me an IPS. Still lovely to look at for browsing/e-mail, but that's about it.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:26 am

Chrispy_ wrote:
Nice, that's a Freesync combo, and the 75Hz of that monitor isn't going to worry about your old i7.

I assume your 2600K is overclocked, in which case it's really not that bad, despite its age.

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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:14 am

I'll give you some of my experience... I was running a GTX 970 and a I5 3570K and playing Battlefield 4 at 100 FPS on medium settings and when Battlefield 1 came out I had a very hard time running it over steady over 60 FPS on a 1080p monitor. The GPU was loafing and but the CPU had all 4 cores 100% utilized with wild swings of frame rates between 50 and 90 FPS. G Sync didn't help, a mild over clock helped and took away the worst of it but the lag was getting me killed at odd times. The motherboard finally died and I upgraded to the I7 6700K. I now could +100 FPS on medium settings and the game played well.

I recently picked up a GTX 1080 on sale for $429 and now Battlefield 1 runs at 144hz on ultra settings. The Beta for Battlefield V runs the same. On the plus side, and the reason I went to a GTX 1080, is that I can now play Elite Dangerous in VR at high settings.

So, while a new graphics card will definitely help you out, in the long run, you will need to budget for a better CPU. Personally, based on my experience, I would be hard pressed to decide which to do first. The GTX 970 is still very capable, especially if you're only running a 60hz monitor. Depending on the games you play and the monitor refresh rate, the CPU might be a better upgrade. Another thing to consider is the getting a GTX 1070 or Vega 56, these will be excellent cards if you're not running a 144hz monitor but even then they will likely be all that you need. That would leave a nice bit of money to put towards upgrading that CPU. I hope this helps.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:30 pm

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I5 3570K and playing Battlefield 4 at 100 FPS on medium settings and when Battlefield 1 came out I had a very hard time running it over steady over 60 FPS on a 1080p monitor. The GPU was loafing and but the CPU had all 4 cores 100% utilized

While single player FPS games are generally GPU-bound, online multi-player gameplay is usually CPU-bound (as your example proves), but I'd wager that the OP's 4C/8T i7-2600K will fare better than your 4C/4T i5-3570K in such situations simply due to the extra headroom afforded by HT. A good way to test is to play (in this instance) BF1 in offline single player campaign (where all the multiplayer resource leeches don't exist) and then compare to online play.
That said, a CPU+RAM+mobo upgrade will improve multiplayer fps compared to a Sandy i7 in many games.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:22 pm

DPete27 wrote:
Pville_Piper wrote:
I5 3570K and playing Battlefield 4 at 100 FPS on medium settings and when Battlefield 1 came out I had a very hard time running it over steady over 60 FPS on a 1080p monitor. The GPU was loafing and but the CPU had all 4 cores 100% utilized

While single player FPS games are generally GPU-bound, online multi-player gameplay is usually CPU-bound (as your example proves), but I'd wager that the OP's 4C/8T i7-2600K will fare better than your 4C/4T i5-3570K in such situations simply due to the extra headroom afforded by HT. A good way to test is to play (in this instance) BF1 in offline single player campaign (where all the multiplayer resource leeches don't exist) and then compare to online play.
That said, a CPU+RAM+mobo upgrade will improve multiplayer fps compared to a Sandy i7 in many games.


My bad, I was thinking 2500k... A little difference there.
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:29 am

Just ordered ryzen 2600 and Asus rog strix x470 for 292+tax from newegg, now just need to find decent ram
 
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Re: 1080 ti upgrade

Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:52 am

For future reference, unless you're planning on having > 1 GPU, AMD's B450 chipset will more than likely cover your needs. Here's a feature table.

For RAM, this 16GB DDR4-3000 CAS15 kit for $125 seems ripe for the picking.
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