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AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:46 pm

OMG RADEON VII IS A THING!

IT'S LIKE RADEON I - VI EXCEPT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ROMAN NUMERALS!

It's.... 25% FASTAR than a Vega 64 in Fortnite! Game over Ngreedia! GAME OVER!

Now remember, this DOESN'T mean that Zen 2 isn't hard-launching today, just that AMD decided to put a bullet into Nvidia's head before they do the same thing to Intel.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:50 pm

Disappointment. It is just Vega 20 rejects that didn't make the FirePro/Frontier cut. It'll be merely contesting the 2070 at best and be undercut by it while making 2060 a good buy by comparison. I suppose it is better than nothing and Navi isn't ready yet.
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Re: AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:52 pm

Krogoth wrote:
Disappointment. It is just Vega 20 rejects that didn't make the FirePro/Frontier cut. It'll be merely contesting the 2070 at best and be undercut by it while making 2060 a good buy by comparison. I suppose it is better than nothing and Navi isn't ready yet.


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(Incidentally, don't rewind to the part of her presentation that brags about AMD's "OMG FIRST CHROMEBOOKS" success story either).
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Re: AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:11 pm

Krogoth wrote:
Disappointment. It is just Vega 20 rejects that didn't make the FirePro/Frontier cut. It'll be merely contesting the 2070 at best and be undercut by it while making 2060 a good buy by comparison. I suppose it is better than nothing and Navi isn't ready yet.


According to the graphs it looks to be equal of the 2080 but for a price not much more than the 2070. If that proves true (roll on the reviews) it should be quite competitive.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:14 pm

It would be nice if AMD had a halo product to compete against NVidia's halo but I wont be spending more than $300 to $400 on a card so performance above that is meaningless to me.
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Re: AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:20 pm

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Krogoth wrote:
Disappointment. It is just Vega 20 rejects that didn't make the FirePro/Frontier cut. It'll be merely contesting the 2070 at best and be undercut by it while making 2060 a good buy by comparison. I suppose it is better than nothing and Navi isn't ready yet.


According to the graphs it looks to be equal of the 2080 but for a price not much more than the 2070. If that proves true (roll on the reviews) it should be quite competitive.


2070 is $499. Vega VII is $699. MSRP for (non-FE) 2080s seem to be around $699-729.

That sounds like 'much more than 2070' to me.
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Re: AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:23 pm

One thing people seem to forget: Nvidia doesn't have to panic and rush through some 7nm MIRACLE GPU to compete with this thing that's not launching for a few more months.
Nvidia just has to have the minimum-wage stock clerks drop the price on its existing lineup in a few months after most of the old Pascal inventory has gone through the system.
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Re: AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:26 pm

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Krogoth wrote:
Disappointment. It is just Vega 20 rejects that didn't make the FirePro/Frontier cut. It'll be merely contesting the 2070 at best and be undercut by it while making 2060 a good buy by comparison. I suppose it is better than nothing and Navi isn't ready yet.


According to the graphs it looks to be equal of the 2080 but for a price not much more than the 2070. If that proves true (roll on the reviews) it should be quite competitive.

They said $700 MSRP. So it's both priced and performs around the same as the 2080, except without DLSS/RTX/GSync. With Nvidia suddenly supporting Freesync there seems to be very little reason to buy Radeon VII unless you really hate Jensen.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:33 pm

I dunno if its disappointing. It seems like if you want a $699-class GPU, AMD's sellilng point is that it got Compute (Blender / Davinci Resolve / Adobe Premier) power. NVidia probably wins in power-efficiency, and also has RTX and DLSS / Tensorcores. So it wins in deep-learning. The 1TBps bandwidth, 16 GB HBM2 is just wtf. Every 3d modeler out there is looking at that card. That's really good specs for compute performance. The Vega II also is 1/2 speed double-precision (while 2080 is 1/32nd speed double-precision).

With the 2080 and Vega II seemingly having roughly the same FPS in video games, it comes down to secondary features. The compute features are a niche, but they seem like a solid draw to the card.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:36 pm

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I dunno if its disappointing. It seems like if you want a $699-class GPU, AMD's sellilng point is that it got Compute (Blender / Davinci Resolve / Adobe Premier) power. NVidia probably wins in power-efficiency, and also has RTX and DLSS / Tensorcores. So it wins in deep-learning.

The 1TBps bandwidth, 16 GB HBM2 is just wtf. Every 3d modeler out there is looking at that card. That's really good specs for compute performance.

With the 2080 and Vega II seemingly having roughly the same FPS in video games, it comes down to secondary features.

Which is great! Here's to hoping Nvidia drops the MSRP of OEM 2080's in response. Though I doubt it.
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Re: AMD: Remember When we said we'd kill Nvidia last? WE LIED!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:37 pm

there seems to be very little reason to buy Radeon VII unless you really hate Jensen.


That's a pretty damn pessimistic way of looking at it.

It's MSRP is $100-$150 cheaper than the street price most of the RTX 2080s on Amazon right now while offering equivalent performance. Seeing as ray tracing isn't a thing in gaming yet, the only thing you're missing out on is DLSS since G-Sync has an additional premium in the monitor price. So, 2080 performance, plus FreeSync, plus a price competitive price is compelling enough reason for me to want to go Red, especially given nVidia's scummy treatment of tech outlets and reviewers who don't write glowing things about all of their products.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:42 pm

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That's a pretty damn pessimistic way of looking at it.

It's MSRP is $100-$150 cheaper than the street price most of the RTX 2080s on Amazon right now while offering equivalent performance. Seeing as ray tracing isn't a thing in gaming yet, the only thing you're missing out on is DLSS since G-Sync has an additional premium in the monitor price. So, 2080 performance, plus FreeSync, plus a price competitive price is compelling enough reason for me to want to go Red, especially given nVidia's scummy treatment of tech outlets and reviewers who don't write glowing things about all of their products.

1. It's MSRP. Street prices will likely be higher. You literally say they are for Nvidia, but then assume AMD will be MSRP from day one. Not sure how, but maybe it could happen.
2. The only performance numbers are from AMD thus far. And hey, maybe it does trade blows with a 2080, but maybe it comes up short like p much their last five generations too. Will be interesting to see the comparison when it comes out.
3. Did you not see that Nvidia is letting Freesync work with particular monitors now? Of course it's not the vast swath that work with AMD cards, but it's not the status quo of No Freesync on Nvidia vs AMD Freesync that it has been the past few years.
4. Wait for reviews.
5. Wait for reviews.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:01 pm

The same exact performance (probably) and feature set as the 1080 Ti (no RTX and DSR) at almost TWO years later and it its the same price?
I have no words. Go home AMD, you're drunk.

Edit: This doesn't bode well for Navi, either. If it was close to launch, AMD would not launch this now, especially not at this price.
 
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The same exact performance (probably) and feature set as the 1080 Ti (no RTX and DSR) at almost TWO years later and it its the same price?
I have no words. Go home AMD, you're drunk.

Edit: This doesn't bode well for Navi, either. If it was close to launch, AMD would not launch this now, especially not at this price.


As soon as they showed off 4-stacks of HBM2 I knew it wasn't going to be cheap.

Its like the R9 290x. Its a high-end compute card that AMD will make a consumer-version for. Double-precision isn't useful to most gamers, but its cheaper for AMD to leave the Double-precision units in (even if it makes the chip run hotter / less efficiently).

Navi looks like it will be a full and proper gaming design, and not a cut-down compute card like the Radeon 7 / Vega2. Navi also looks like it won't be anything better than a 2070 however. So Radeon 7 is the best AMD will have to offer for the near term future (for better or worse).
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The same exact performance (probably) and feature set as the 1080 Ti (no RTX and DSR) at almost TWO years later and it its the same price?
I have no words. Go home AMD, you're drunk.

Edit: This doesn't bode well for Navi, either. If it was close to launch, AMD would not launch this now, especially not at this price.


Good point. Navi was a no-show at the event even as Su was eager to show off RyZen parts that aren't launching until Q3. What does that mean for Navi's launch schedule?
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:08 pm

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I dunno if its disappointing. It seems like if you want a $699-class GPU, AMD's sellilng point is that it got Compute (Blender / Davinci Resolve / Adobe Premier) power. NVidia probably wins in power-efficiency, and also has RTX and DLSS / Tensorcores. So it wins in deep-learning. The 1TBps bandwidth, 16 GB HBM2 is just wtf. Every 3d modeler out there is looking at that card. That's really good specs for compute performance. The Vega II also is 1/2 speed double-precision (while 2080 is 1/32nd speed double-precision).

With the 2080 and Vega II seemingly having roughly the same FPS in video games, it comes down to secondary features. The compute features are a niche, but they seem like a solid draw to the card.


Basically, you want a discounted Vega 20 that ate too much power for enterprise customers. That's what this Radeon VII essentially is. It will do absolutely nothing to the current gaming GPU market. Nvidia has no reason to drop prices and keep milking the market for its worth.
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Basically, you want a discounted Vega 20 that ate too much power for enterprise customers.


I mean, the R9 290x was pretty nice, wasn't it? And it was just a discount FirePro W9100.
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The same exact performance (probably) and feature set as the 1080 Ti (no RTX and DSR) at almost TWO years later and it its the same price?
I have no words. Go home AMD, you're drunk.

Edit: This doesn't bode well for Navi, either. If it was close to launch, AMD would not launch this now, especially not at this price.


Actually it is still slower than 1080Ti at DX11-stuff and merely catches up to it under DX12 stuff and falls behind 2080 at gaming performance. General compute it is a different story. It is a good deal for certain workloads.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:16 pm

Krogoth wrote:
USAFTW wrote:
The same exact performance (probably) and feature set as the 1080 Ti (no RTX and DSR) at almost TWO years later and it its the same price?
I have no words. Go home AMD, you're drunk.

Edit: This doesn't bode well for Navi, either. If it was close to launch, AMD would not launch this now, especially not at this price.


Actually it is still slower than 1080Ti at DX11-stuff and merely catches up to it under DX12 stuff and falls behind 2080 at gaming performance. General compute it is a different story. It is a good deal for certain workloads.


https://images.anandtech.com/doci/13828 ... 9%20PM.png

Seems to be roughly equivalent to the 2080, which was faster than the 1080 Ti. Obviously, we should wait for real benchmarks. But... the current slides / information we have says that its roughly a 2080-class card.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:23 pm

Good news is that since Nvidia kept price/perf in line with the 2000 series, AMD can charge $700 for the Radeon 7 series without presenting a significantly worse value than the competition.

Also, caution as per usual about taking vendor slides with a grain of salt. AMD has done some weird **** in the past with their benchmark settings. I seem to remember stuff like disabling anisotropic filtering.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:28 pm

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Good news is that since Nvidia kept price/perf in line with the 2000 series, AMD can charge $700 for the Radeon 7 series without presenting a significantly worse value than the competition.

Also, caution as per usual about taking vendor slides with a grain of salt. AMD has done some weird **** in the past with their benchmark settings. I seem to remember stuff like disabling anisotropic filtering.


Honestly, with 1TBps HBM2, AMD is likely going the other route on this one. AMD probably has the most absurd AA going on at 4k, which would best take advantage of the huge memory bandwidth that HBM2 offers. I'd expect "unnecessarily difficult" settings to be enabled.
 
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derFunkenstein wrote:
Good news is that since Nvidia kept price/perf in line with the 2000 series, AMD can charge $700 for the Radeon 7 series without presenting a significantly worse value than the competition.

Also, caution as per usual about taking vendor slides with a grain of salt. AMD has done some weird **** in the past with their benchmark settings. I seem to remember stuff like disabling anisotropic filtering.


Honestly, with 1TBps HBM2, AMD is likely going the other route on this one. AMD probably has the most absurd AA going on at 4k, which would best take advantage of the huge memory bandwidth that HBM2 offers. I'd expect "unnecessarily difficult" settings to be enabled.

Anisotropic filtering != antialiasing. We're talking about two completely different workloads.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:58 pm

What's with all the negativity? It's got over double the memory bandwidth, a larger frame buffer, and looks to be roughly the same price/performance as the competition. I don't think anyone was expecting Navi yet.
 
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1. It's MSRP. Street prices will likely be higher. You literally say they are for Nvidia, but then assume AMD will be MSRP from day one. Not sure how, but maybe it could happen.
2. The only performance numbers are from AMD thus far. And hey, maybe it does trade blows with a 2080, but maybe it comes up short like p much their last five generations too. Will be interesting to see the comparison when it comes out.
3. Did you not see that Nvidia is letting Freesync work with particular monitors now? Of course it's not the vast swath that work with AMD cards, but it's not the status quo of No Freesync on Nvidia vs AMD Freesync that it has been the past few years.
4. Wait for reviews.
5. Wait for reviews.


Well, considering nVidia outsells AMD somewhere around 3:1 in the gaming space, and considering recent price trends with Ryzen, no, I don't foresee Radeon 7 going for much over MSRP. Vega's prices were horrendously inflated due to miners, not gaming demand, and mining is thankfully not really a thing like it was anymore.

But, yes, I always wait for reviews. Still, am more optimistic than not.
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Street prices for stock-cooled cards won't be higher, but everyone charges 20-30 more just for not having a terrible cooler on teh card.
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Street prices for stock-cooled cards won't be higher, but everyone charges 20-30 more just for not having a terrible cooler on teh card.


AMD's stock cooler on the Radeon VII is a triple-fan design though. It actually looks like a design I'd be willing to buy.
 
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remember GTX 1180 is still a thing. it wont come with RT and unknown about tensors (maybe cut down as well), but that's what vega vii / vega 20 has to compete with. gtx 1180 will be cheaper than rtx 2080.

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Street prices for stock-cooled cards won't be higher, but everyone charges 20-30 more just for not having a terrible cooler on teh card.


AMD's stock cooler on the Radeon VII is a triple-fan design though. It actually looks like a design I'd be willing to buy.

I must really be out of it, because I didn't catch that. Whoops. I just ifgured it was going to once again get AMD's horrible blower.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:40 pm

At this rate GPU perf/$ is stagnating its gonna take forever to replace my 1070. Thankfully I bought one with a 5 year warranty.
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